Games should have a limit?

**Blue_Dragon** · 12-04-2010, 07:54 PM

Yeah. For instance, my nephew is only 5, but when he was allowed to watch Sponge Bob (I hate this ignorant dribble, but I respect it's right to be on TV...or at least in existence) and he started hitting kids and us, and so he was no longer allowed to watch it, everything was explained to him, and now he's fine.

Point is, if you don't pay attention or watch what your kids are doing, then they're not gonna know the difference. I must have been shelter or something, cause I wasn't even allowed to watch Gumby cause my mom thought it was too stupid for us. She always knew what we were doing, so we didn't get into much trouble. And we made it through High School without killing anyone! Shock! It's not hard to know what your kids are doing, so long as you actually pay attention to them. Most parents are too lazy, don't know how to parent, or are preoccupied by unimportant stuff now.

*I'm not saying anyone's parents here are like that, I'm just saying, if someone's concerned about what their kid is watching, they need to be in the know. It's not hard to find out.

**Ozzaharwood** · 12-05-2010, 06:45 PM

It's not the games that do the damage, it's the way the kid is brought up. I had played a tonne of bad games when I was little and watched gory/bad movies and I never did anything violent or against the law. It was because I was brought up right, not because I didn't play those games.

(I am also not saying anyone's parents here are like that and I agree with Blue Dragon)

**jubeh** · 12-06-2010, 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by 291

Most people that play games are kids.

Just came in here to drop this off.

http://www.theesa.com/facts/pdfs/ESA_EF_2009.pdf

The average game player age is 35. Only a quarter are under the age of 18.

**Alexander_Hamilton** · 12-06-2010, 04:28 AM

Games are like any other art form. There is stuff for kids, there is stuff for adults. You can't pass laws against games with certain subjects but allow it in books and movies.

**jubeh** · 12-06-2010, 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by 291

And believe me a game would not look less interesting if you remove a crime scene or make it less realistic. Games should not be focused on being interested by showing violince etc. It's just an excuse that you can not think of something interesting.

This is a p bad argument man. You're saying that every time there is violence in a game it's an excuse. Can you not think of any games where the violence has a very deliberate effect?

Hint hint no more heroes.

If you haven't played the game I don't want to spoil anything but if the game weren't as violent as it was, the point would have been lost.

To say that violence can't be used artisticly is to deny that anything has artistic value.

And since all games are played by kids (even if they are rated aduls only) all games should be made to be educational because kids learn by observing the environment.

Why why why should developers have to pigeonhole themselves for an audience that shouldn't experience their work in the first place. That is just silly.

Would be porn be better if it always ended with an interesting fact like GI Joe?

In that case it may be appropriate to have some sort of violince but only if the games leads the player to the conclusion that this is a bad think to do.

I half agree with this and I half don't. I happen to subscribe to the unpopular opinion that sometimes violence is the answer.

On the other hand I like it when a game punishes you for being heartless and murdering innocents. I really dislike the god of war games because kratos kills innocent people along with the bad ones. It's a really frustrating thing because you have no control over it. He just does it, and you're supposed to think he's a badass when really it's just sociopathic.

Also I want to point out that you could say I was brought up "incorrectly" but to this day I have not committed any acts of violence or theft. You don't get to pick and choose your parents, but you do get to decide what kind of person you want to be.

I mean unless you have a mental disorder or something.

**Hayashida** · 12-06-2010, 02:09 PM

I think anyone who has played NMH would agree that violence can be awesome

**jubeh** · 12-06-2010, 03:23 PM

Well I wouldn't say it's awesome but it does have a deliberate effect.

It's like in dragonball z when frieza killed krillin. Killing him was bad enough, but then he holds up his severed head right in front of goku. If that doesn't illicit some sort of emotional response from you you are probably a robot.