I struggle to think of a better example of revenge than this.
Except your views are poisonous and shared by most humans and have led to the murder of countless people. Also, on that note, you seem to forget how often states fuck up and execute people who are actually innocent.But hey, you are free to disagree with me here and we can part ways.
As should sentencing. And if you think judgment is usually rendered without emotion you have no idea how a jury works. Trials don't determine innocence or guilt. They determine who is the most popular with the jury and who has the fanciest lawyer (which is a roundabout way of saying they determine who is the richest person).I agree, I wasn't really saying that we should use emotional appeal to convict others. Usually judgement is done without emotional appeal.
Actually, a sex offender is more likely to repeat their crime than a murderer, but nothing else you've said so far has been supported by reality, so why start now I guess.We can rehabilitate thieves, drug addicts and maybe sex offenders.
This is so untrue that it would be funny were it not sad.Murderers usually look for the thrill of murder and the sadism of killing someone in a cruel way.
Just about any person is capable of murder and rape. Why risk the many lives at stake? Let's jut lock everyone in tiny cells at all times.True, it can be classified as an addiction but why risk the many lives at stake if the therapy fails?
Did you even read the article you sent me?I'm feeling lazy. Here's wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison#Rehabilitation Numbers are pretty low...
So rehabilitation is found, when properly applied, to reduce recidivism by 26-32 percent while imprisonment alone is found to actually increase the amount of repeat offenses. Oops!When all three principles [of rehabilitation] are effectively applied, the impact on offending is a 26–32% reduction, compared to a 3–7% increase in offending found with imprisonment alone.
Also what country are these statistics coming from? If it's America they are useless.
Oh my God you are absolutely fucking insane, aren't you?Since I am so kill crazy, okay! And let's call it Obamacare, seeing as it does state to pull the plug on grandpa or anyone else over age of over 65. It's perfect!
Doesn't matter. You said 'perceived' or 'potential' threats. Most Americans perceive Muslims as threats, so they qualify. Most Muslims are also physically capable of murder or rape, and thus quality as potential threats. You also said 'necessary'. Ergo the only conclusion is that America has the obligation to hunt down and imprison or murder every Muslim on Earth. Don't worry though, we've already made good progress on that goal.Not every Muslim believes in suicidal bombing and killing in the name of their God.
There were no bombs involved in the September 11th Attacks. Don't call it a bombing.The bombers from 9/11 just so happened to be Muslims.
Statistically speaking African Americans seem to be more prone to crime in America. It may require some prejudice, but to save thousands of lives, let's just throw every single one in jail, eh? Again - don't worry, we've already basically done this.It would be silly to imprison every single Muslim we find. We can still, however, ensure that those select few Taliban are detained. It may require some prejudicial behavioral patterns, but it may save more than thousands of lives.
Of course not, I don't have the training to properly try and rehabilitate someone.On a side note if we caught them, would you rehabilitate these men?
I never said we can cure them all. I said that we can cure some. If only one criminal per every million could be cured, that's still better rates of success than just murdering them all. The odds of rehabilitating any one person are, however slim, greater than zero. The odds of rehabilitating the corpse of a criminal are exactly zero.They are pretty sure there is a God out there that wants them to kill infidels. With what you are saying, you say that we can cure them.
Are - are you fucking seriously saying that criminals should be tortured in Auschwitz like conditions? Is - is this what you're saying? If so, congratulations, I think you are the most revolting human being I have ever had the displeasure of personally engaging in any sort of exchange with. Remember that I've spoken to people in Psalm who argued for slavery, genocide, and more, so congratulations, you've really done something amazing.Very debatable, I must say. That really is up to whoever is judging the person and whatever the circumstance is and what prison that hosts the felon. If the prison is a real second Aushwitz, sure why not?
Oh, I see, so you are a total fucking monster. Congratulations, you're filth.Life in prison. If it's not, then death penalty. I don't consider criminals really people than dangerous threats to society.
Africa is not a country you idiot.I'll admit, Texas is not the brightest bulb on the U.S. and the U.S. is not the best model of society to look at either. But there are other countries out there that have a high crime rate. What about Africa? That's a pretty high crime rate there too.
Please show me compelling evidence illustrating a potential causal link between the implementation of a death penalty and a drop in recidivism.Some implement the death penalty and have a low crime rate, some are like the U.S. Some even don't have a high crime rate anyway.
Also, martial law would help lower the crime rate too. I imagine North Korea has a low crime rate.
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/stud...t-deter-murderCite this, please.
Real quick took me a second on Google. I'd get you more or better ones, but first of all I don't think someone like you is remotely worth spending that much time on, and second I'm not feeling too well so even if I didn't have an absurdly low opinion of you, I'd be too tired to do it right now.
You're right. Becoming cruel murderers in response to cruel murder is totally the rational and moral response.What do you suggest we do with murderes? Kill them? No... that would be cruel to the people who kill others cruelly!
"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster."
Nice response.LOL STRAW-MANNING!!