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    Quote Originally Posted by someguy View Post
    So I have to learn all that if I even want to be halfway decent at art? Seems like too much of a burden, and where are your drawings at Joosh? Oh right... You removed them all.
    It is not a burden if you enjoy the process. If you don't enjoy it, I would suggest you to not try to tackle drawing or art production, as you will feel it as a burden and it will only going to make you unhappy. You could do writing, music and many other things, try to find what you enjoy to learn, because no mater what you pick, its going to have a lot to teach you and you must enjoy the process.

    Also, try to not offend people by saying "Some faggot ass concept artist", because first I find quite poor and insulting using the word faggot, and second because stating your complain only restrained to "concept artist" only shows what little you might know (specially because concept artist don't really need to be great artist on the first place).

    And finally, I don't understand why are you asking for Joosh drawings, if you try to bring other people work to mock of them or to try to look superior than them, I would suggest to try other person than Joosh, who is really good.


    Be aware that this is the critique alley, and if you post art work here you need to be ready to take critiques, as people who post here are doing it to get better, and so, if you want to get better you must learn, learn from tutorials and rules. So you might don't want to post things here if you are not ready to take other peoples critiques.
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    Quote Originally Posted by someguy View Post
    I have to learn all that stupid shit? Why? I'm not looking to become some faggot ass concept artist.
    it's okay, instead you can be a faggot ass shitty artist
    no one will ever take your ugly as fuck art seriously, you can't draw and with that attitude you never will be able to!
    good bye (:

    Quote Originally Posted by someguy View Post
    So I have to learn all that if I even want to be halfway decent at art? Seems like too much of a burden, and where are your drawings at Joosh? Oh right... You removed them all.
    oh my god, all of the autism in this post is outstanding

    http://www.mangatutorials.com/forum/...Update!/page10

    please stop posting on this forum, you're not welcome at all.
    Last edited by toast; 11-09-2012 at 06:44 PM.

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    okay, someguy, If you can't be bothered learning it, then don't. Not our problem.

    if you actually like art and want to produce something that you can be proud of, then stop calling people faggots and knuckle down. everything that you called "stupid shit" everyone here is either in the process of or has learnt. one way or another. hey, if you wanted, you could ignore the foundations and just build the house, but if you try to live in it, that shit's gonna crumble like a cookie.

    Make your choice or stop bothering us with minor toddler tantrums. I could be drawing instead of lecturing you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toast View Post
    hey
    before you even think about getting into anatomy, you must understand the basics in art so that your ventures into other aspects in art are much easier and more effective. Here is a list of things you need to learn, as well as some images. For some, I'll put an exercise in parentheses. It's preferable that you do this in order, therefore it will be easier. Feel free to PM me with any questions:

    -Drawing what you see, not what you know (blind contours and drawing an image upsidedown are the 2 best exercises for this)
    -Seeing space and negative shapes (negative space drawing)
    -Being able to see/create forms beyond their 2d shape (cross contours)
    -Measuring size, angles, and shape relationships using a tool and without using a tool. (ex: being able to see how far the tip of the nose is from the corner of the mouth, using a ruler if you're unsure)
    For all 4 of these, you MUST check out the book The New Drawing With The Right Side of your Brain. Don't fret, you don't have to pay for shit because you have the internet! Here's a download for the pdf:
    http://www.mediafire.com/?qw77ll80oxyo8c2
    -Values and depth. Understanding how light affects a form, understanding contrast in values. Images. Please look through each image carefully!! To get the most out of everything, draw along side and make notes
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    -Techniques with your tools. In this case, pencil techniques. Rendering techniques (shading and adding values), working principles. Images:
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    Then once you understand all of these and you are successful with it, you can get into this stuff:

    -Basic Portraiture (this way you are able to put all your new found knowledge to the test).
    -basic Anatomy and Figure Drawing. This is what will require the most resources, so here is a quick little image collection. At this point, you should start building up a decent collection of references and resources, including photo references and whatever other useful information you find.
    I will add a few images that will help you, but what you should REALLY be doing is look at more books now. Anyone else reading will know what I'm about to mention
    The 2 teachers you need to check out are Andrew Loomis and Glenn Vilppu. With Loomis, you should look at his books in order, starting with Fun with a Pencil.
    http://www.alexhays.com/loomis/
    With Vilppu, here is his Drawing manual. He also has many various instructional videos that are VERY helpful. You can look for a torrent if you want.
    http://www.mediafire.com/?paqy6vsbdq3tv8o
    Although some of the art can look outdated (especially in Fun with a Pencil), the information is extremely valuable and I guarantee will help you as long as you utilize it correctly.
    As you continue with anatomy, you most likely will find that having a decent understanding of the muscular/skeletal system is beneficial. These two guides (especially atlas of human anatomy) are my favorite, as they go into detail on the muscles and bones of each body part
    http://www.mediafire.com/view/?6dtmu58har6cvsl
    http://www.mediafire.com/view/?bu6xhvg22vg37wv
    -Basic Composition (do daily compositional sketches. Landscapes, scenes, etc). Image:
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    -Efficient workflow, from working out idea to finishing your work
    -Drawing from memory
    -Perspective (one point perspective, 2 point, so on. You can easily find a guide online bruv)
    -Constructing objects with shapes with planes. Being able to draw forms in perspective and in different angles
    -Color. Images:
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    TIPS
    *Draw and sketch with as few lines as possible. Avoid chicken-scratch lines, sketch with your whole arm as opposed to flicking your wrist around. Be flow-y with your work and don't strain yourself. This will promote confidence and force you to plan out where you'll put your lines beforehand
    *Speaking of confidence, BE CONFIDENT! No one is an amazing artist in the beginning. We all have times where we despise our own work and think we'll never improve, but we will. Just stay determined and keep practicing, and you will one day come to a point where you are truly happy with your work.
    *It's completely fine to work with manga outside of your studies, but please try to avoid mixing manga with it. Proportions and shading in stylized work is a lot different and will mess what you're trying to learn.

    good luck and GODSPEED! even if you don't make use of this post at all, hopefully others can.
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    The hell did you even bother posting for stupid?

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    obvious troll is obvious

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    Draw this pl0x
    Last edited by Demonfyre; 11-18-2012 at 10:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by someguy View Post
    The hell did you even bother posting for stupid?
    yes yes, feed me your tears

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    SPOILER! :
    You've already been reported twice.

    I'm issuing a final warning. Stop the BS and do something productive, or I'm closing the thread.
    From there, you'll probably be banned.


    The critique corner is for exactly that. Not trolls, or wannabe trolls who have nothing better to do but waste peoples time.
    These efforts could easily be spent on somebody else who would actually appreciate it, and right now, you're a distraction.



    Edit: Dude was banned. Thread closed.
    Last edited by GunZet; 11-18-2012 at 02:39 PM.
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