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    Icy's Beginner Artwork ^_^;;

    WAZAP!


    Hey there. I'm Adam "Icy", a new member here. This is the place where I am going to post all my drawings/pictures/artwork/whatever. I'm at a very beginner level, so keep that in mind.

    Also! You can be literally as harsh as you want. I will never get annoyed or angry. And if you're the type of person who tries to be super tactile and indirect so as to not sadden someone, you definitely don't need to worry about that here. Just say what you really think, and I will be very happy. Criticism is the greatest gift one can give.

    Please note that when you give a tip on a drawing, I will apply that knowledge the next time I draw something which can use what you told me; I wont modify existing artwork (mostly because I think it's a lot of effort to make, seeing as I can just use it the next time I draw).

    And now, on to actual artwork.


    September 2013
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    9/20/13
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    First "drawing -> scan -> edit with GIMP" picture that I did. The hair is really badly done here;; This was an experimental shading technique where I colored black and then smudged outwardly~~. It turned out a bit messy.


    9/21/13
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    Second drawing. This was originally black and white, but I tried a very experimental method to color it. It turned out a bit strange, but I think it's somewhat OK. I think the hand/arm that I drew looks terrible, and the shading/coloring can use a lot of work; it's very messy and just seems to go everywhere.


    9/22/13
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    Significant departure from my previous style. I attempted a minimalist drawing, with some experimental coloring and highlight effects. I also tried a new method of (1-layer) shading, using some tones (not that visible). This method takes much less time.
    I think his face is too long (mouth is too far down, making it a bit out of proportion?), and the left eye is somewhat too small.


    9/24/13 - Practice Sketch of Some Hands

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    Since I'm ridiculously bad at drawing hands, I decided to just do a random sketch using my own hand as reference. These two aren't meant to be on the same person. Also~~ignore the random doodle in the back.



    They are still very terrible, but that's to be expected given the fact that this was just a practice sketch. I'm going to read up/look at tutorials and so forth on hands and arms now.


    9/26/13 - Self Drawing #1
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    In an effort to combine both learning proportions and anatomy, I'm going to attempt to draw myself daily using a picture as reference for a while. I believe this will help me get a better overall sense of proportions and so forth. My goal at the end of this little project would probably be to be able to draw myself without any photo, and more importantly to give myself a lot of practice at drawing proportions as they really are. Future plans may include drawing someone else from an image repeatedly (for the same reasons). I will still be studying/practicing on drawing general anatomy (with help of my awesome Gray's Anatomy book) along this project. These drawings will not necessarily be too detailed or edited much, because it's just to give an overall sense of proportion/anatomy.

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    I took way too little time to create symmetry... shoulders and arms are ridiculously uneven. I look really stupid in general here .___. Also, the hands are looking a bit better than in my previous drawings, but I still need to work on them a lot. In any case, it's the first drawing, and it looks nothing like me T_T. Side note: some features are drawn in a more manga style purposefully.


    9/27/13 - Self Drawing #2
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    Second self-draw. The pose I am sitting in doesn't make much sense, but that's probably because I drew everything below the face without reference and I had to make up how I would be sitting. At least it doesn't look TOO ridiculous. I think this one resembles me significantly more than my first drawing, but I still have a lot of work to do. I tried to apply Gaff's hair tip, and also to darken the lines a bit more. The hands and lower arms look quite strange, perhaps they're too thin.

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    9/28/13 - Self Drawing #3
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    This had potential, but I made the upper body way too short and the legs just aren't that good... Somewhat better than the last one, though. Also, I need someone to teach me how to actually do clothing lines; at the moment it's just random lines that don't seem to fit at all T_T


    9/29/13 - Self Drawing #4

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    My favorite one so far. The arms look a bit uneven and possibly too thin, however.


    9/30/13 - Drawing of a Friend
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    I think I will halt on my self-drawings for a while. In the absence of those, I'm going to draw (with references) some people I know.
    This one turned out pretty nicely; I think I captured the expression fairly well and the clothing lines are better than usual. It's not very detailed, however, and I think there's quite a few errors with facial symmetry.

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    October 2013
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    10/1/13 - Two Drawings
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    There are pretty much no details and very little shading in these. They're mainly just practice towards getting anatomy and proportions to look reasonable.

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    10/2/13 - Drawing of a Friend #2
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    This one I feel looks pretty close to the original, but I think I made the head a bit misshapen, possibly too round? Also it's not so detailed. As a side note, I feel like I might be becoming a bit of a copy artist, my drawings always look way better when I'm doing one with reference from a photo than just trying to create a character V__V I need to work on that...

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    10/3/13 - Drawing of a Friend #3
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    I also looked at doghateburger's redline for help. Thanks a lot for that! It was quite useful.





    10/4/13 - Drawing of a Girl
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    Another pencil drawing, this time of a girl (my sister, if you care). For being the first time I use a girl as a reference photo for these drawings, I think it turned out somewhat OK, but there is something unsettling about it that I can't quite pinpoint. The eyes look a bit creepy, maybe? I'm not sure. Also, I modified the expression a bit because it just didn't seem to make any sense when I tried to draw it (her mouth is kind of "sad" but the raising of her eyebrows make it less sad and more neutral; when I drew it she just looked angry, so I gave a generic smile and fairly straight eyebrow).

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    10/5/13 - Reality Check (No Reference)
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    Decided to attempt to draw a guy, this time without any reference, to see if I've improved from my reference drawings.
    The result was meh, but I believe it is better than my first few non-reference ones.




    10/6/13 - Less Realistic Drawing
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    Another attempt at a more manga-esque drawing. I used a few references, including my own past drawings plus a few of Rio's tutorials on this site. In the end I think this is almost OK at best, but not really impressive and probably proportionally terrible.




    10/7/13 - Sketch
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    10/9/13 - Guy Drawing and Random Anatomy Sketches
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    Sorry about the angles on these, as I said I didn't intend to make them for viewing when I drew them ...

    up and down T_T

    Ignore the random doodles on the bottom...


    10/14/13 - L Drawing
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    10/15/13 - Second Tablet Drawing
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    10/23/13 - Hoodie Guy ^_^
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    November 2013
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    11/7/13 - Several Things
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    (yes, I know the eyes are different shapes) Also, ignore the random doodles in the back


    Awkward drawing of a kid riding a bicycle. Yes, I'm aware the pedals are invisible and that the wheels aren't perfect circles.


    Uneven eyes again ^^


    scanner messed up on me


    11/16/13 - 2 Drawings
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    December 2013
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    12/2/13
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    12/4/13
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    12/5/13 - DAT ECCHI NSFW !!
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    12/6/13
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    12/11/13 - Redraw
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    Before (circa 9/29/13)
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    Today (12/11/13)
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    Nose & mouth is probably pretty weak, but about 10 minutes of erasing and redrawing didn't seem to help it. Next time I draw this type of more realistic thing I'll have to actually look that up.

    March 2014
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    3/29/14 **somewhat nsfw**
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    (for the arm-behind-head position)
    http://design.tutsplus.com/tutorials...--vector-11608 (for bed folds)
    also used another random female drawing reference, can't remember the page though :/




    August 2014
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    Is there a particular sort of style you're aiming towards? I think you're already aware that proportions are the big issue here, but it would be useful to know what sort of look you want to end up with. Studying anatomy in general is always going to help though, no matter how you want your work to look in the long run.

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    @Gaff - Really good question. I'd be lying to you if I told you I had some specific style/theme in mind; it's not something I've put a lot of thought into. For the most part it's just been the caveman-esque "GET BETTER", but since several people (and now you) have told me about the proportion issues, I think i'm just going to put some effort into studying anatomy, and see how my work starts to change once I do so. Thanks a lot for the recommendation~~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    I think i'm just going to put some effort into studying anatomy
    Looking at your drawing, I would put in more then just SOME effort into anatomy if you're really planning on getting good at it. And the way you draw hair looks like crystal shards. Try using more longer and smoother strokes. Don't make it to complicated. Just keep the hair simply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doghateburger View Post
    Looking at your drawing, I would put in more then just SOME effort into anatomy if you're really planning on getting good at it. And the way you draw hair looks like crystal shards. Try using more longer and smoother strokes. Don't make it to complicated. Just keep the hair simply.
    I use the word "some" a bit loosely. My actual intention is to try to be good, so I guess I would just replace that with "a lot".

    As for the hair, I absolutely agree. A lot of people have told me this. One of the main reason it looks like that a lot of the time is because my methods for converting hand drawn images into digital images with distinct black lines is really primitive; I usually just draw over the lines (mainly with a straight line tool, which makes it way too... straight, as you can imagine ^_^). I'll have to work on how I do that.

    Thanks a lot for the tips.

    EDIT: On the note of anatomy, I had a sudden realization earlier today when I looked at myself in the mirror: I draw shoulders way too straight and not curving/angling down from the neck enough.

    EDIT #2: In an effort to combine both learning proportions and anatomy, I'm going to attempt to draw myself daily using a picture as reference for a while. I believe this will help me get a better overall sense of proportions and so forth. My goal at the end of this little project would probably be to be able to draw myself without any photo, and more importantly to give myself a lot of practice at drawing proportions as they really are. Future plans may include drawing someone else from an image repeatedly (for the same reasons).
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    The hair certainly looks a lot better in the newest one, but you seem to be making a lot of work for yourself by drawing in so many different strands. Unless you're determined to do it that way, you can still get natural looking hair by just drawing in the overall shape, so long as you suggest any distinctive features (like a flick or a parting) and, ideally, the areas of light & shade when you're toning it.

    Speaking of which, if you're having trouble drawing an outline, have you tried adjusting the colour levels? If your pencil lines are clean enough, you should be able to get the image fairly close to black & white without having to redraw the whole thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaff View Post
    The hair certainly looks a lot better in the newest one, but you seem to be making a lot of work for yourself by drawing in so many different strands. Unless you're determined to do it that way, you can still get natural looking hair by just drawing in the overall shape, so long as you suggest any distinctive features (like a flick or a parting) and, ideally, the areas of light & shade when you're toning it.

    Speaking of which, if you're having trouble drawing an outline, have you tried adjusting the colour levels? If your pencil lines are clean enough, you should be able to get the image fairly close to black & white without having to redraw the whole thing.
    I would agree on the hair. It is significantly more time-consuming to draw all the different strands, as you say; when I reflect on it, I do notice that most manga/anime hair is drawn in the style you propose. I will certainly give your suggestion a go.

    In terms of outlines, I do try to darken the pencil lines with a color tool on some drawings. However, since I draw on graph paper, the grid lines still show up. In the future, I will probably just draw it on regular printer paper, or if I feel I really need to, draw on graph and _then_ on printer paper. Thanks a lot for the tips.

    EDIT: OP updated with 2nd drawing. Tried to use Gaff's suggestion(s).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    I would agree on the hair. It is significantly more time-consuming to draw all the different strands, as you say; when I reflect on it, I do notice that most manga/anime hair is drawn in the style you propose. I will certainly give your suggestion a go.

    In terms of outlines, I do try to darken the pencil lines with a color tool on some drawings. However, since I draw on graph paper, the grid lines still show up. In the future, I will probably just draw it on regular printer paper, or if I feel I really need to, draw on graph and _then_ on printer paper. Thanks a lot for the tips.

    EDIT: OP updated with 2nd drawing. Tried to use Gaff's suggestion(s).
    On drawing on grid paper: you CAN draw and scan without the blue lines showing up! When you go to scan the image you select "scan black and white" so nothing that is in color will show up. Some artists will sketch in a colored pencil like blue or red then go over the lines they like to keep with pen or a regular pencil and then scan in black and white to do the digital side of their art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psy View Post
    On drawing on grid paper: you CAN draw and scan without the blue lines showing up! When you go to scan the image you select "scan black and white" so nothing that is in color will show up. Some artists will sketch in a colored pencil like blue or red then go over the lines they like to keep with pen or a regular pencil and then scan in black and white to do the digital side of their art.
    Didn't know that. Sounds like a really good idea. Thanks a lot! ^_^

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    I actually find MS paint is surprisingly good for inking and colouring, but there is a specific way to do it! Hard to explain, so here is a link to someone on YouTube who explains it all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAEroeVSdBU
    The program is free, so I would recommend trying it!

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