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    Quote Originally Posted by CypressDahlia View Post
    And I'm pretty sure 99% of those 13 million people were just pissed off because it meant it would be harder to get things for free.
    This is all you needed to say. Well, more like 75% Pissed pirates, 15% Didn't know wtf was going on in the first place, but heard it was about the internets, and 10% Legit.

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    Yeah I'm gonna miss Megaupload. /arrrrrrrr~

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    Megaupload was simply a martyr. Although I must say I'll miss it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kodos View Post
    I'd say 'third world' in the common parlance describes any nation sufficiently stricken with poverty and corruption.

    If 50% poverty rate is not poverty, I don't know what it is. And if I have to explain how America is corrupt or how our police are jackbooted thugs and the enemy of the people, I don't know where to start.

    Fuck America, fuck the police.
    Um yeah except for the fact that the poverty line as defined by America is a lot better than the poverty line as defined by a true third world country. In America people below the poverty line still eat, take showers, go to school and play video games. If you're talking about people in America who are truly starving, living on the street, sick and dying because of a lack of income then that number falls well below 50%

    By all means, lets see what happens when we remove the police from society.

    The problem we're facing is that humans don't know how to moderate themselves. There is no happy medium for us as we constantly want more. We want more money, more property, more power and once we get that we only find more things that we are in want of. Right now the parties that will benefit from laws such as ACTA are upset because a little bit of their billion dollar income is getting scraped off due to piracy. Instead of coming up with innovative ways to generate income to make up for the loss they run screaming and crying to their friends in office to make it all better and teach a lesson to those keeping them from buying another addition to their Ferrari collection.
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    Goddammit, Lamar Smith is at it again!
    apparently he's creating a bill that's supposed to combat child pornography, by monitoring everyone 24/7, monitoring your credit card information and saving all the browser history for 18 months. meaning if they see you do anything suspicious, they'll send a partyvan on your ass. When the hell will this guy start to understand the internet?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunZet View Post
    This is all you needed to say. Well, more like 75% Pissed pirates, 15% Didn't know wtf was going on in the first place, but heard it was about the internets, and 10% Legit.
    I'm neither of those. I'll be mad because my anime sites will be closed down, making it impossible to watch anime without importing it or unless Funimation releases it here. That means no more watching ongoing series, and some anime may be impossible to find in stores.

    Plus what they are doing is wrong anyway. A movement to adjust infrastructure will hopefully be put into action if SOPA/PIPA are passed, as the American government is using the Internet to impose American laws outside of American borders. If they continue this, they'll be able to shut down any site at any time. There are rumours going around that they may shut down photoshack. I mean, c'mon? How are images lowering any of their income?
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    Hell_Baron, there's really nothing to understand about "the internet". Much like the real world, we'll never have any privacy because our society is based so heavily in licensing, paperwork and bureaucracy. Just about every single thing we do has some form, signature or barcode attached to it. In other words, our bank statements and internet history have never been a secret. If you ever been/known anyone that's been to court, it's surprising how quickly the state can dig up your info.

    On the other hand, all that for child pornography is kind of dumb. Millions of man hours and dollars in government wages would go into monitoring every single person for something that barely has an internet presence. CP, unlike pirating, is far from the "norm" on the internet. It's pretty much forbidden territory. So watching EVERYONE for something that //few// people are vendoring is a waste of resources. Though some areas on /b get dangerously close to child predation...

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    Actually, it does get that far sometimes, lol. I have a feeling if this does go through, they are going to have a real hard time with 4Chan and Anonymous.

    It'll be like this:

    SPOILER! :

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    I doubt that'll get very far. Anonymous is kind of delusional like that. Yeah they may have a dozen "l337 haxorz" but they don't have a police force at their call and beck, and they don't have a military. You've seen how civilian uprisings of any form end up. Until the UN guilt trips and steps in to intervene, people are just getting beat and arrested 24/7.

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    If any of these bills are passed and people are charged with what ever you want to call it (copyright infringement mostly right?) then what? Where are these people going? There will surely be allot of them so are they planning on spending more money for more prisons? Aren't the prisons grossly over populated as it is now and they want to just add more? I doubt they could handle the wave of new prisoners coming in and manage to keep them all in even a semi safe humane facility. Then if no prison sentence just a huge fine? So charge a huge sum of money to these people for not being able to afford stuff in the first place? I know it's theft and that they shouldn't have taken it but either way there would have been no profit made by the company that sells that product anyways and those stealing probably aren't profiting off of the stolen product anyways.

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