Reply With QuoteYep. That, or be able to talk about differences that are difficult to cope with, which is something that cannot be achieved through denial either.Originally Posted by Blue_Dragon
Not to play devil's advocate...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Pistorius
I already stated my opinions, but I thought I'd just add this as food for thought. Even a person with a disability can at times regain potential.
Anyway, I thought the initial argument was that we're all different, not the same, and should be taught to value those differences rather than deny they exist by saying we're all the same?
Yep. That, or be able to talk about differences that are difficult to cope with, which is something that cannot be achieved through denial either.
True, bad example. But no, even before the initial moment of conception our genetics and our environment are shaping the limits of our potential.
That being said, even the human with the greatest disadvantages IS capable of doing something worthwhile. But we are getting away from Cypress' entire point of the topic. Even if people have equal potential, they are very different in many ways, and it is better to acknowledge and understand those differences than claim they don't exist.
Let's say you are a boss, who has two people and a task that requires one part strength and one part intelligence. One worker is smarter than the other, and one worker is stronger than the other (forget about the difficulty of measuring intelligence for the sake of the example). If you treat them with the supposed "completel equality" popular today, then you claim the strong person should have the same opportunity and right as the smart person to do the intelligent task, and vise versa. But doesn't it make far more sense to have each person work to their strengths?
Right, Well, on race then, let's just say this. If a white man or black man (or an Asian man or an Indian man or a Purple Polk-a-Dotted man,) who were as similar as possible in a genetic sense, and had the exact same background, they would all have equal potential.
Yeah, but that's taking a lot of things for granted.
Sometimes you have to. :|
It would probably be best to say that everyone has something to contribute, and that the color of ones skin doesn't change ones potential.
That's a lot simpler/less controversial.
This I get can behind. Basically, what should matter is not WHY someone has a certain potential, but the potential itself. So when judging or evaluating someone as, say, a writer, it shouldn't matter whether they are a good writer because of genetics, schooling, race, gender, etc. All that matters is that they are a good writer.
It's also worth noting that racism is counter-efficient in many cases. When you limit yourself to certain races, whether we're talking about friendship or employment, you are automatically limiting the number of potentially worthwhile candidates. I might miss out on the best person for the job because I'm prejudiced and only want white people, or because I'm worried about having "diversity" in my business and only hiring minorities.
I want to stand the point of Ethnics. I hate people calling them self "I'm half Irish and half Scandinavian" and they live like a normal USA family (not even with traditions of those places). WTF? That is even more retarded that racism, its like you are "creating" a race to differentiate you from the rest.
It's called pride in your heritage. There is nothing wrong with that. Though ... Doing so without traditions does strike me a bit silly.
Exactly, without traditions is retarded. And even more when you pull it out and you are like the 10 generation that born in USA.
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