The possibility of paying a fine is still a less harsh sentence than instant death with no questions asked.I say again. 50 shekels of silver is a lot of fucking money. Think about it. How many rape convicts do you reckon could pay this humble fee? Few. What do you think would happen to them if they couldn't pay? My bet's on some kind of execution. The passage is clearly a get-out clause for the rich twat who rapes a peasant. You find laws like these across human history.
As opposed to"Hey Caecilius, this chap raped a girl the other night."
"What does the law say?"
"The weight of her in silver for the father... but this guy has no cash."
"Better kill him then."
"Hey, Ezekial, Yeshua's children are rude and do not listen to him so we are helping stone them to death later."
You know, I forgot to ask. I admit ignorance of the exact worth of a shekel, please show me what source you used to arrive at the conversion into modern money. I'm not necessarily saying you're lying, I'm genuinely curious."Laws" like this exist, as I said, for the sole purpose of getting a bawdy prince out of trouble.
Please show me when I have argued that the origin of patriarchy and misogyny is to be found in the Bible?To go down the road of trying to argue that the Bible created sexual inequality is annoying. The Bible didn't create these inequalities, they were around far, far, earlier.
Not really. An ad hominem is when the premises are about the person and the conclusion about the argument. I'm saying your insane - my premises and conclusions are all about you. Rape in the Bible has less harsh penalties than fucking being a disobedient child. Also I asked and checked - the UK does jail rapists, usually without bail, and I understand that they may even receive life imprisonments. So you'll have to try harder if you want to compare this sort of barbarism to the practices of any civilized nation.AD HOMINEM!
If it is wrong to do X then it is always wrong to do X regardless of the time. If it is wrong for me to force a woman to have sex with me against her will then it is wrong for me to do this thing at 2 PM, 3 AM, 2010 CE, 2031 CE, and 2010 BCE. Whatever factors an ethical system does or does not consider to be valid in deciding the morality of an action, the time in which an action occurred cannot be one of them."Context may depend on factors, yes, but temporal factors are not one of them." - Wut?
Lucky for you the discussion at hand has only two very simple moral questions. I'd like you to answer them.Shit gets real when people start waving words like "Right" and "Wrong" about. I'm not all that convinced by "morals" in general. Sure things like this can be nice or not nice, but can they be right or wrong?
1. Is rape morally wrong?
2. Is it morally wrong to force a rape victim to marry her attacker.