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    Mangatutorials IRC

    After a long time of thinking if I should do it or not, I did it. I created an IRC for MT.

    For those of you who don't know what an IRC is, it stands for an "Internet Relay Chat"; basically an advanced chat room system that's been around for a very long time. In order to get into IRCs you need an IRC client. The most common are mIRC for Windows and Chatzilla for Firefox. If you are using Mac or Linux, you'll have to look for one that you like. If you've never used IRC before and want to join, I suggest reading up about the basics first. I didn't and when I first joined I had a little trouble. The purpose of this IRC is to provide a chatroom for MT members who don't want to draw. I don't like it that the GB is being used as a chatroom and people don't draw at all. (I'm guilty of this, lol) IRCs are used on almost all forum sites nowadays, and even a lot of funsub groups have 'em. Trust me, you'll find that it's worth your time.

    There is a lot I still need to do, but so far I've got a safe bot to keep the channel open, provided sufficient security to keep out spammers/attackers, and kept op privileges only to ops. It should be all we need since it's our IRC will be fairly small and out-of-the-way.

    After a few people join, I will make it so only registered users may join. You will have to register at your start-up page. This will make it so we can kick and temp-ban people who are abusing the chat. I will also assign ops, or chat moderators after we get a few people who regularly chat. If you don't understand a lot that I'm saying or you want to read up on instructions, check below.

    This is a simple guide I wrote up for the basics of IRC:

    SPOILER! :
    Connecting to MangaTutorials

    This guide was made with Chatzilla in mind.

    MT uses the IRC server:

    irc.rizon.net

    The chatroom is:

    #MangaTutorials (not case sensitive)

    To join the IRC with Chatzilla, type "irc://irc.rizon.net/#mangatutorials" in the address bar after you've DLed it.


    How to connect to #mangatutorials

    1: Start your IRC client
    2: Enter the Nickname you want into the bottom left button, beside the input bar.<
    3: Now, to join the server. Type (or copy/paste) into the input bar:

    /server irc.rizon.net

    If your nickname hasn't been used yet (by you or another person) it will tell you the nickname needs to be registered.

    To do this type (or copy/paste) into the input bar:

    /msg nickserv register your_password your_email

    Where "your_password" is the password you want, and "your_email" is your e-mail address.

    An activation code will be sent to your email address (used for registration). Read the email, type the command into IRC and your nickname will be registered (one nickname/group of nicknames per email address).
    Registration is not usually required to join a channel, but some channels explicitly require one. (We will be doing this in the future, so best to sign up now)
    The battle is done at this point! To connect to a channel, so you can talk to people, type (or copy/paste) into the input bar:

    /join #mangatutorials

    How to reconnect to #mangatutorials

    1: Start your IRC client
    2: Your Nickname should still be in your client, so leave that part alone.
    3: To join the server again, type (or copy/paste)into the input bar:

    /server irc.rizon.net

    Instead of asking you to register this time though, it will ask for your password. To do that, just type (or copy/paste) into the input bar:

    /msg NickServ IDENTIFY password

    Just replace "password" with the password you gave when registering.

    Now, you can reconnect to the chat room by typing (or copy/paste) into the input bar:

    /join #mangatutorials


    How to auto-connect, auto-join and auto-identify


    To auto-connect a server, select the tab of the server you wish to auto-connect to in the future (you must have a window open assigned to that server in the first place!). Right click within the window, and select 'Open this network on startup'.

    To auto-join a channel, select the tab of the channel you wish to auto-join in the future. Right click within the window and select 'Open this channel on startup'.

    To auto-identify, go to the toolbar at the top, click Chatzilla -> Preferences -> Select the server in the panel on the left (in this case irc.rizon.net) -> click the 'Lists' tab -> Press 'Add...' in the Auto-perform section -> Fill in the following (remember to replace "password" with whatever your password is!):

    /msg nickserv identify "password"

    Connecting to different channels

    To connect to another channel when first starting up, just replace #mangatutorials with the channel you want (like #anime-planet.com). If your already connected, type (or copy/paste) into the input bar:

    /join #channelname

    Where "#channelname" is the channel-which-you-want-to-connect-to's name.


    Now that that is all over, you are ready to join the IRC. I'm fairly new to creating channels so if it ever crashes, don't worry. I will have it back up and running ASAP. There are also tonnes of guides on Google to check if you don't understand anything. This may seem overwhelming at first, but it's a nice thing to have, and there is no harm in it. I will be waiting to see who comes in first, and I'll be taking notes on who I should make a mod. If this fails and no one comes in, I'll either scrap it or just keep it running for if there is a time someone wants it back up.

    Super tl;dr thread, but w/e. If I missed anything or if you have any questions don't be afraid to post.
    Last edited by Ozzaharwood; 09-18-2011 at 08:48 PM.

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    Palindrome Member ClockHand's Avatar
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    Another GB but where you can't draw. That is exactly what we need.

    I pass, not just because is another GB with less features, but also because you are a mod there.

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    Sounds like a place to chill. But I hate IRC channels. I just find them a bit clunky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClockHand View Post
    Another GB but where you can't draw. That is exactly what we need.

    I pass, not just because is another GB with less features, but also because you are a mod there.
    The GB is meant for drawing. This is meant for chatting. Mods can only ban/kick, and I won't do that to any MT members unless they start posting dirty pictures or dl links with viruses. If you want I can make someone else the admin, idc. Everything is already set up. If you guys don't want to do it it's your choice but I've had a couple people ask me about it before, so I figured wth; I'll do it. A lot of people also have problems connecting to the GB, so this could be a good alternative.

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    Palindrome Member ClockHand's Avatar
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    we have one on the site, the gb also works as a chat room, why having another?

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    The one on the site is only there because I told Ramiel we should make an IRC, so he made that as a substitute until we did get one. The GB is good for chatting, I agree, but with an IRC you can have a lot more people in it at one time, anyone can connect very easily, and it's a good substitute for anyone who just wants to chat and not draw. I don't know why you care anyways, you already said you aren't going there and you almost never go on the GB.

    Bottom line is: People asked for it. I supplied it. I don't really care if you don't like it.

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    I don't like the idea, because as I said, we already have the features for chats. If a user want to chat he should use the features we have, so the features become useful and not dust gatherers. When you bring a software/program/feature/interface/etc that does the same than the features the site gave, then you are killing those features. You should do the opposite and motivate people to use what we have and if what we already have is not working as we want, then we make it better, but bringing the same features again will kill the olds and those (old ones) will not become any better.

    Also, by the amount of active members that MT have, the GB is almost perfect.

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    Is your purpose here to disagree with every thread or post that you can? I never see anything positive come from you. You can be on the GB and the IRC at the same time. That way it won't kill anything. The purpose of the GB is to draw, so you draw and talk about the drawings there. The IRC's purpose is to chat. You chat about whatever you want to chat about there. Rio even said she would like an IRC. IRC is an alternative that is a lot better than an on-site chat. It has a lot more features, you can connect to other IRCs as you wish, and it has a kick/ban option that is useful for trolls. I was also asked to create an IRC by a few members. That alone was enough for me to make one. That alone is enough for your posts to become obsolete. I made what people wanted, so even if you don't want it they do. Now stop trolling.

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    GB function = Share and Draw
    IRC function = Share

    By extension the GB already does what the IRC does. When you implement the IRC, specially to new members, you are actually killing the older feature. Even if you can do both at the same time, the common behavior will be the transport of people from one feature to the other, ending with the dead of one of the features.

    I disagree because it is a bad idea and most possible the end results are going to be: A) no one will enter to the IRC and it will die, B) no one will enter to the older and it will die, C) members are going to separate between both. And the most rare possibility is that both are gonna be used by the same users, which is pretty unreal.

    Come on, its pretty obvious when a bad idea is a bad idea, you just need to think a little and you will see.

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    You obviously haven't read the GB thread's posts. People are annoyed that users will go to the GB just to talk and not draw. The IRC is meant for those people. It's also meant for the users who don't go to the GB at all. The majority of people that asked me to make it don't go to the GB. It will most likely have no effect on the GB. I get what you are trying to say, and I see the point you are making now, but how about this : If option B happens, I will get rid of it. If C happens (Depending on the severity) I will get rid of it. You win either way. If you don't accept this and keep trolling, I will get mad.

    Honestly though now that you've trolled this whole thread I don't think anyone will join. I don't even know why you care either, you go to neither.

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