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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardic-Dragoon View Post
    OK you've said this before and to the best of my knowledge never explained it. my guess is it's the condensed version of a 'you need to use thumbnails speech' in which case realize that whenever i 'use thumbnails' really all i get is a sad attempt to make a full picture in a 1"x1" box, simply put when i start drawing i don't stop until i stop as it were, a minute or two on a sketch 1x1 concept of a piece rinse repeat for different takes on said concept doesn't really work for me in practice, and i have tried on numerous occasions. I am not a spontaneous guy and i never put pencil to paper without a seriously thought out (often over though out) plan, the culmination of which is putting pencil to paper to get it into the rough draft stage at which point i edit and revise ad nauseum not unlike i have been with the Nyuujou Megami piece that seems to be the current centerpiece of this thread. Of course i am wholly open to the idea that i am misinterpreting what your trying to get at but if so explain it and enlighten me.
    Ok before I do this, let me say this to everyone else who may have a problem with what I have to say, Deal with it, I'm not talking to anyone Bardic, so anyone other than bardic can really go fuck off.

    Ok to you, since you say I never explained I'll try to go into this as simple and clear as possible, No it’s not a condense version of my use thumbnails speech, and I'm going to explain that to you as well since you... first I'll start with the thumbnail The thumbnails has 2 purposes, 1, is to help lay out composition which is one of the first things that should be studied along with anatomy, even before. Whether you’re doing environment or character, composition is the single most important element and make or break your art work. To help with this, because truly explaining composition will have me sitting here for hours going into the element of design, and the rule of large medium, and small. To shorten it, imagone your paper divided in 3s
    Looking at this painting as an example its divided in threes, the most dominant element is to the right, the weight of the painting is to the right.
    http://www.stepbystepwatercolour.com...omposition.jpg

    when doing a thumbnail sketching process, keep everything simple, don’t try to do a finished piece in the thumbnail. 2. The second purpose is to try and get your idea on paper, simple. Its also used for doing paint layout, and tonal lay outs.
    http://blogofthoughts21.blogspot.com...sketching.html
    http://augenwurm.blogspot.com/2007/0...-imposing.html

    These thumbnails aren’t clean, they aren’t amazing, they are simple and get the idea on the paper, here are a few more example
    http://www.explore-drawing-and-paint...il-sketch.html
    Do you better understand the thumbnail process now my friend?, don’t just stick with 1x1 inch, do some 3x2 inch, 2,x3 inch and so on. Everything you say you do, I do to, I always over think my drawings and paintings, and usually end up dis satisfied, even with thumbnails, I can easily run through 20 thumbnails without working on a final piece. This is when I rest and start again.

    If you worry about edit and revising, than stop doing stuff digitally or with a pencil, and grab a pen or well I would even say acrylic paint. These are harder to edit because there is no control z or “Eraser” so you won’t be wasting time trying to edit and fix. Yes there is stuff like white out, but using stuff like that will make your stuff look even worse than it originally did.

    Here are some pen thumbnails
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lbbv9ytGeY...thumbnails.jpg

    Ok moving on from thumbnails, when drawing people one of the most two sided things I’ve seen are gestures, I and many other artist feel gesture are the most important part of a figure drawing. Other artist don’t do gestures at all, so I can only tell you what I feel. When say gesture, I am not talking about one of those stick figure drawing , and not trying to grab at the pose, but actually grab at the energy and emotion of the figure in whole
    Gesture drawing exampels
    http://www.mde-art.com/art-blog/char...ture-drawings/
    http://www.jaimetreadwell.com/pafa-drawing-figure.htm
    http://www.artistsnetwork.com/wp-con...1_gesture3.gif
    Yay gesture shapes!!!!!
    http://ryansavas.blogspot.com/2008/0...-gestures.html
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uDkeMQfqrm...8703f3c50.jpeg
    http://3kicks.blogspot.com/2010/04/g...harles-hu.html
    We start simple and work to complex which is shown here
    http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/junk/parleydressconst.jpg

    All of this is simple gesture shape, these artist work simple, but will build further off this if they want, its started simple and become more complex
    http://kidfrodo.com/gesture-drawing_20100917
    http://briansydnor.blogspot.com/2010...ming-soon.html
    I feel I’m stopping too early, but I think I’ve dumped a lot of stuff ontop of you without you being able to question me clearly.
    Last edited by The_shaman; 10-03-2011 at 11:21 AM.

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