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JamesEckelmanJr
12-13-2010, 03:45 PM
Hey I made this with MSpaint Was a very simple idea My lines are very thick I could of did a better job with the eyes not much shading except below the neck i used a light swamp green and light yellow for the face if you set the pictures total lum to 0 the yellow comes out on the face or in a dark reflection it looks more like a surrealist portrait then anime imo.


thanks for any imput!!

edit: Sorry I am still putting online thanks sorry

http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2010/12/JamesEckelmanJr-failed-comp-104-105_150.jpg

Fenn
12-13-2010, 06:38 PM
Nice. I can't do anything on computer so it looks great to me.

Rasu
12-13-2010, 07:02 PM
how often do you work on drawing outside of the computer?

JamesEckelmanJr
12-13-2010, 07:31 PM
Not Much. I was reading earlier about how rembrant (forgive my spelling) used to warm up with gesture drawing. I was trying some earlier watching CSI.

I have some drawings I made using a ball point pen and some lined and unlined fine paper. I drew most of it before I began reading here. I will post it asap, nothing special, was just trying to make somthing that would be easy on the eye.

Funny thing, I drew a Jigglypuff (from pokemon) on paper and one of the neibours kids called my apartment the moment i finished drawing it! so that was that last night for me.

I made a sketch earlier today, i havent finished the eyes or much of it but i was going to work on it just been busy today reading.



http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2010/12/JamesEckelmanJr-failed-comp-114-115_150.jpg


thanks for the comments everyone. I hope this pic gives you an idea how I am drawing the lines.


edit: Here is a completion of 114. There are bigger pics in my gallery, take a look there too, thanks!
Any comments appreciated!

http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2010/12/JamesEckelmanJr-failed-comp-115-116_150.jpg

Rubisko
12-14-2010, 03:05 AM
If you draw a lot on your computer I would recommend another software than ms paint. Photoshop, Illustrator are ones that comes to mind but if you want a free software I would recommend GIMP; http://www.gimp.org

Your picture 114 is much better than the previous two. Tha shading of the eyes makes it more dimensional. I would suggest you try to draw stronger, more confident lines, especially the outlines (lines that separate the whole character from the background). Personally when I draw manga or comic characters I make the outline two or three times thicker than the other lines.

Rasu
12-14-2010, 11:29 PM
alright my professional advice.. if i can give it, is to draw circles for the eyes at least until you are confident that they are the most circuly(...?) that you can do and to try drawing the iris in it. keep posting i think i'll enjoy helping

outlaw1422
12-15-2010, 12:25 AM
until you are confident that they are the most circuly(...?)

I think you meant "circular" :-)

But, yeah, I used to draw a lot of stuff on MS Paint back when I was a kid. Mostly Megaman characters for some reason o_O

You definitely have skill, James. I'd love to see you do some stuff on GIMP, PS, or Illustrator!

My only critique at this time is that 114's head is very disproportionate. Even for a chibi character, you can do way better with the form and the spacing.

If they fit your drawing style, I'd say the eyes are fine as-is, but personally speaking, I agree with Jared's critique.

I hope I was at least a little helpful :-P

JamesEckelmanJr
12-15-2010, 12:26 AM
Hey thanks guys for the helpful info. Ya the eyes on 114 seem to look 2 directions to me... I think the outline i had used for the eyes looks like a sketch still, yeah. And that the eye is a little off in view tends to drift my eye to the upper left corner of the mouth. I will try rounder eyes and see what happends.


I sketched this earlier today and used line art over the sketch line, added some basic shadows and just a paint bucket for texture. The eyes are not so round but oval, i wanted to give the appearence of an old man, but still see his eyes. Let me know how i can redraw the eyes for this if you have an idea.

http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2010/12/JamesEckelmanJr-failed-comp-121-122_150.jpg

Thanks everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!

outlaw1422
12-15-2010, 12:37 AM
Hmm...well, I honestly think the eyes on the old guy look frakkin' awesome! My only gripe is the spacing; the eyes are too far apart for my taste. IF, however, this is your intended drawing style, go ahead and ignore what I said :-)

You gotta add more wrinkles! Put some lines that follow the shape of the eye, and put more emphasized lines on the side of the mouth. Use this for some reference: http://www.treehugger.com/old-man-scientists.jpg

Rasu
12-15-2010, 11:02 AM
cicular, yes that was probably the word i was looking for. Anyway just depends on what kind of style you're going for. A great way to start getting better is to draw basic shapes like circles and ovals because the head is basically made up of those shapes

JamesEckelmanJr
12-16-2010, 01:42 AM
Thanks Outlaw and Jared. Yeah the black on 115 are noticibly not the same size not to mention the outline lines are a bit funky I would Like to work on these characters more so I am definately going to redo 115 and use some better line art. I think on 115 I will try different eyes and maybe do the eyelashes some credit. also add more lines and shadows to the old guy to bring out more dimension in the cheeks, and try moving the eyes a bit closer.


I was reading earlier about how we are not ready for HD animations, because a lot of freelancers wont be able to have enough capacity in their ram for the enlarged files, rendering and then shrinking to the size they are working on them right now. Do you guys know anything about what screen resolutions are used for vga? i think it is 670x480 but not sure.


Also, I would like to use a higher res and and put some anti alaising on my pics because well the jaggies look kinda nes'ish imo.


I made a quick sketch and lined it earlier. Just, thanks everyone for support and help, I want to work hard to make good anime.

http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2010/12/JamesEckelmanJr-failed-comp-132-133_100.jpg

Thanks everyone!

Edit (12-16-10): Hey so I changed the old guy picture like you guys had mentioned, I moved the eyes a little bit closer by a few pixels, and added some lighting effects and shadowing to the head, and added more lines to the face. I wanted to put more lines in it, but after a point it looked like I was butchering the dimension of it, i dont know. I outlined the girl pic, but have to clean up the old color i used. Really was looking to have a regular cartoon feel to it. let me know how i did and what i could do differently. (Sorry about the grammer)

http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2010/12/JamesEckelmanJr-failed-comp-123-124_500.jpg

Thanks everyone!!!

JamesEckelmanJr
12-18-2010, 02:19 AM
Hey I cleaned up the lines and put some new eyes in 115, what do ya think?
I'll admit the lines are a little thicker then I would of liked after i finished it, oh well I can try rounder eyes and thinner lines sometime next week.

http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2010/12/JamesEckelmanJr-failed-comp-119-120_500.jpg

Thanks everyone!!!!

JamesEckelmanJr
12-29-2010, 01:34 AM
Hey I'm back, I made this short with Photoshop, but I didn't seperate the construction lines with the layers, was just trying to figure out pen tool, so I ended up converting the image to greyscale to hide the colors that got altered with the anti-alaising I used for the line art. Any ideas are appreciated!!

Also, thanks to blue dragon, outlaw and everyone that posted on this thread here and on my welcome thread!!

Sorry if my grammer is off.

http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2010/12/JamesEckelmanJr-solitary-war-ep-1a_500.jpg


Thanks!!!!!!

Rasu
12-29-2010, 05:19 PM
alright well looks like your coloring is good. A good way to find some tips is to go to this mark crilleys site on youtube. this has helped me a lot and it seems to do wonders if your looking for more help.