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jubeh
04-26-2011, 07:11 PM
So most of you probably knew that psn went down a few days ago but apparently now our info is compromised. I'm posting this for anyone that might be affected.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/26/update-on-playstation-network-and-qriocity/


Although we are still investigating the details of this incident, we believe that an unauthorized person has obtained the following information that you provided: name, address (city, state, zip), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID. It is also possible that your profile data, including purchase history and billing address (city, state, zip), and your PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers may have been obtained. If you have authorized a sub-account for your dependent, the same data with respect to your dependent may have been obtained. While there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility. If you have provided your credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, out of an abundance of caution we are advising you that your credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may have been obtained.

For updates, Patrick Klepek from giant bomb has been contacting banks and sony. Here are some important tidbits.


Update 3: Valve has just told me that anyone who connected their PlayStation Network account to Steam via Portal 2 should not be worried, either.

"Steam has nothing to do with the PSN outage," said the company in the statement.

Update 2: Regarding rumors Sony may have notified banks days ahead of disclosing today's revelations to the public, I have since contacted customer service representatives at both Bank of America and Chase. I personally have accounts at both financial firms and the representatives claimed to have received no information from Sony about a mass breach of credit information.

Update: For those who were asking, Sony has just confirmed to me there is currently no way to determine what password you were/are using on PSN. If you're worried at all, you should probably change your password used across the Internet.

Psy
04-26-2011, 07:40 PM
My brother in law told me a bit about this last week some time.

First the psn was attacked by a bunch of hackers that were coming to the defense of the guy who first cracked the iPhone to be used on any network saying that because it's bought by you you should be able to do what ever you want with it including this (he cracked the ps3 to put simulators or somthing on it recently and put it up all over but Sony said nuh uh it violates the terms of blah blah blah and sued the dude). The hackers that took it down the first time are denying any involvement in this case tho.

(also the law suit against the dude has been settled out of court or something)

Off topic but related anyhow. Do I have something wrong tho?

jubeh
04-26-2011, 07:45 PM
You are a bit misinformed about the suit with george hotz. Psn wasn't attacked by a bunch of hackers, it was basically jailbroken and the security code was given out for everyone to use. Also he didn't crack the system to put simulators(?), it was for homebrew purposes after otherOS was removed for no reason. The issue was that it created a way for people to pirate games, which hotz says wasn't his intention.

Edit: Wait I think you were referring to anonymous when you talked about the bunch of hackers. Yeah that was pretty silly. As for claiming not to be involved, the obvious issue there is that they're not an organized group of people. They could really be anybody. That's like the whole point.

Matt
04-26-2011, 07:53 PM
To the original PSN hacker, I say good job. I know I'm just stealing a line from Extra Credits here, but generally, you don't mess with the kinds of people who install Linux on a Playstation.

But now it's kinda getting out of hand. I don't have Internet, therefore I can't play on PSN, but I know it's gonna suck for everyone who does.

Psy
04-26-2011, 07:57 PM
I have no clue honestly. I have a horrible memory when it comes to things like this. It's still kind of creepy to think that some one can do that especially if there's more than one. I am not a fan of the ps3 and if shit like this is going on I'm not likely to change my stance.

Hayashida
04-26-2011, 08:29 PM
wth, they got our personal information? that's pretty messed up.

jubeh
04-26-2011, 08:29 PM
Not ours. Just yours, john.

Hayashida
04-26-2011, 08:31 PM
:monkey_speechless:

ClockHand
04-26-2011, 08:44 PM
well if it make you feel better, you and other ps3 owner are in troubles, so you are not alone.

Sylux
04-26-2011, 08:45 PM
N-nande kurewa?!

Arashi500
04-27-2011, 02:00 AM
I seriously don't want to go around to every site I ever use and come up with new universal password and input it into every one.

jubeh
04-27-2011, 02:03 AM
I rotate passwords p regularly so that doesn't concern me but I just put down credit card info recently. So that I could buy one of those themes that donate money to the disaster victims in japan.

What the fuck karma.

CypressDahlia
04-27-2011, 02:45 AM
People who do that kinda shiz are the reason we can't have nice things.

Ozzaharwood
04-27-2011, 06:04 PM
Check your E-Mails, PSN/Qriocity users just got sent an update.

CypressDahlia
05-01-2011, 03:28 PM
The ironic flipside to this is that "Anon" hackers shut down PSN as an act of "peaceful protest" against Sony for suing that one guy that jailbroke the PS3. Now, not only is that a stupid reason but, instead of actually making a point, they've just taken away FREE online gaming from PS3 owners AND put their private information on the line. As an end result, they hurt far more people than they represented.

If anything, these guys are gaming terrorists. Lol.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-8nzpmCLug

ClockHand
05-01-2011, 03:36 PM
Both sides are funny (annon and sony). Sony said its going to gave a one month free of psplus as compensation. But we all know this is actually a sellers tactic, because everything you download with ps+ is lost when the service is over, so of course they are giving it "free" so then can "force" people to keep using and paying for it.

This war is becoming more and more silly with the time.

CypressDahlia
05-01-2011, 04:14 PM
It was never Sony's fault to begin with. When I commit piracy or use emulators, I do so with the full knowledge that I might get in trouble. So why are they so mad that they //did// get in trouble? Geez.

And I'm sure they'll figure something out to make the free PSPlus thing work. The last thing they wanna do at this point is make themselves look worse lol.

ClockHand
05-01-2011, 04:22 PM
No one is mad against Sony for the hacker attack, people is mad because the information about what happened was slow.

CypressDahlia
05-01-2011, 04:25 PM
Well, nobody here is mad at Sony. But the reason the attacks happened was because a couple people got mad at Sony, that's what I was saying.

jubeh
05-01-2011, 04:25 PM
A lot of people are mad about sony for the hacker attack but I'm not a security expert so I won't comment.

But in a hilarious twist

http://www.latimes.com/business/sc-dc-0428-court-class-action-web-20110427,0,1239412.story

(Not really its a few days old)

CypressDahlia
05-01-2011, 04:54 PM
From what I've read, the vast majority of people are just mad at the hackers.

jubeh
05-01-2011, 05:05 PM
I've scoured the dark corners of the internet and opinions are all over the place. Some people are even putting the blame solely on george hotz. That's like blaming the beatles for charles manson.

But tbh I would avoid most of the discussions if you really hate stupid analogies because that is what ip law always comes down to.

CypressDahlia
05-01-2011, 05:11 PM
I see, I see.

Still, the fact that all of the blame isn't on Hotz + hackers bothers the hell out of me. Are we so desensitized to crime that we can't even label a villain when we see one? srsly.

GunZet
05-01-2011, 05:33 PM
Don't know about you guys. But PlayStation was pretty cool without a network.

weez18
05-01-2011, 05:35 PM
well from what i heard about psn being down it was rumored tht it wud b up by next week and tht sony was giving a free month of ps plus and as of your info being compromised cant say if its true or not but i also heard tht peoples credit card info might have been at risk

jubeh
05-01-2011, 05:42 PM
I see, I see.

Still, the fact that all of the blame isn't on Hotz + hackers bothers the hell out of me. Are we so desensitized to crime that we can't even label a villain when we see one? srsly.

Well uh hotz didn't do anything so thats one reason the blame isn't on him! Also some people believe sony was negligent in terms of security. That's not something I can elaborate on though, because like I said I don't understand ip law nor am I a security expert.


Don't know about you guys. But PlayStation was pretty cool without a network.

Wow what a constructive post. Thanks for joining the conversation and sharing this with us!!!

CypressDahlia
05-01-2011, 05:48 PM
Hotz did do something, though? o_O I mean, they didn't sue him for nothing. That's a waste of time and resources on Sony's part.

jubeh
05-01-2011, 05:49 PM
Well he jailbroke the ps3 and published the security code online. He has nothing to do with the hacker attacks aside from people saying he inspired them.

ClockHand
05-01-2011, 06:27 PM
Hotz is not connects with the hacker attack, his case is complete different; he jailbroke the ps3 so you can use it while you use psn, and sony sued him for that.

This made a lot of debate about information, but basically Annons didn't attack Sony for suing Hotz, but more for the concept that information should be free and other stuffs they claim (yeah I don't remember all their allegations).

At the moment there hasn't be published who were the hackers or founded(?), but finding one guy is not going to stop this attacks.

CypressDahlia
05-02-2011, 06:59 AM
They already arrested 5 of the hackers lol.

Okay, so the real story is that the hackers got into the system and Sony shut it down as a countermeasure. The downtime is due to them having officials thoroughly investigate the breach.

But yeah, I blame Hotz simply because he is the seed that sew the whole issue, not because he had a direct correlation with the actual attacks. And also, Anonymous making claims about free information is a joke considering they are Anonymous.

jubeh
05-02-2011, 11:01 AM
But yeah, I blame Hotz simply because he is the seed that sew the whole issue, not because he had a direct correlation with the actual attacks.

Wait wait so you are saying this is his fault.

That's what you are saying.

GunZet
05-02-2011, 11:01 AM
Is is safe to assume that the hackers already caught are being raped by Sony yet?

ClockHand
05-02-2011, 12:40 PM
Where is the source that said that the hackers were already captured?

Because I haven't founded anything about that yet, only a little article about someone who was mistaken as one of the hackers.


edit: oh wait I found the sources.

Psy
05-02-2011, 01:47 PM
I hadn't heard about them being caught or anything but what I did hear was that son said that there was a breach but no information was taken. That it's possible that your information was taken but no evidence to prove it was found. Then some dude that works for or owns an Internet security thing did some digging finds on a website for hackers that some one is selling the credit card info of like 2.2million psn members for a couple million. Again don't shoot me for getting things skewed cuz I got a bad memory.

This all just kind of opens the flood gates for other attacks don't you think?

CypressDahlia
05-02-2011, 02:14 PM
Wait wait so you are saying this is his fault.

That's what you are saying.

The attacks aren't his fault. The overlying issue was his fault.

jubeh
05-02-2011, 04:33 PM
Okay for a second there I thought you had gone full retard.

CypressDahlia
05-02-2011, 05:18 PM
Naw, I know better than to go Full retard.

You never go full retard.

Arashi500
05-05-2011, 12:08 PM
Oh hey guys, looks like the hackers also recently got the Sony Online Entertainment(SOE) network. Sony just can't catch a break.

Ozzaharwood
05-05-2011, 06:13 PM
Sony just sucks

Hayashida
05-05-2011, 06:41 PM
Sony just sucks
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o219/Dokken_2112/facepalm.jpg
>mfw u think this

CypressDahlia
05-05-2011, 07:54 PM
So it all makes sense now:

The obsessive Halo fanboyism and the strange love for XBox Live.

You just hate Sony, don't you, Oz?

Ozzaharwood
05-05-2011, 08:33 PM
I hate them right now because PSN went down just when I got a new game I wanted to play online.

Also they are one of the biggest electronics company in the world, they should have more precautions when dealing with hackers.

CypressDahlia
05-05-2011, 10:11 PM
That would be a problem, I guess, if you paid for online.

Sylux
05-06-2011, 12:41 PM
PS3 wins over 360 hands down. It just feels better.

jubeh
05-06-2011, 12:51 PM
As somebody who does not perform intercourse with his consoles and owns both I can say that they both suck.

GunZet
05-06-2011, 04:14 PM
The simple answer here is to just play PC. It's too hard hard most of the time.

...I would like to play Killzone 3 at one point though.

Hayashida
05-06-2011, 04:41 PM
Don't tell me you're one of those PC gamer elitist who thinks "consoles are only for casuals". Because if you are you are a loser.

GunZet
05-06-2011, 04:47 PM
Nah. I'd love to have an Xbox..or maybe if my GameCube worked I'd be playing SSX Tricky 3 right about now.

I am a big PC gamer though.

Ozzaharwood
05-06-2011, 04:49 PM
Hey guys how much did you pay for PSN?

Outcast
05-06-2011, 06:02 PM
0$

Hayashida
05-06-2011, 06:06 PM
Hey guys how much did you pay for PSN?

Nothing

GunZet
05-06-2011, 06:19 PM
Isn't PSN supposed to be free or something?

ClockHand
05-06-2011, 06:23 PM
I think he is talking about psplus.

that or he is retarded and paid to someone for his psn.

CypressDahlia
05-06-2011, 07:07 PM
The PC is the ultimate console, Dokken. It is a one-time purchase, infinitely upgradable, infinitely backwards compatible, can be played with any controller of choice, and is already jailbroken. Also, you can watch porn on it. Beyond that, PC games tend to feature many more options than their console counterparts.

Arashi500
05-06-2011, 09:22 PM
I'm disgusted with the amount of people blaming Sony for this. No matter how secure a network it can be broken into by someone with the right equipment and know-how. On the side of 360/PS3/PC, I prefer my 360 pretty much any day, and for RPGs I'll always get them on PC if possible, but I'm so fanboyish as to put my PS3 down.

Hayashida
05-06-2011, 10:22 PM
The PC is the ultimate console, Dokken. It is a one-time purchase, infinitely upgradable, infinitely backwards compatible, can be played with any controller of choice, and is already jailbroken. Also, you can watch porn on it. Beyond that, PC games tend to feature many more options than their console counterparts.
What's your point? All I was saying is that people who play PC games seem to have something against people who only play console games, as if the games on consoles are somehow totally worse than ones on PCs.

LVUER
05-06-2011, 10:27 PM
People blame Sony because we all need someone to take fall. That's what human likes to do, right? Pointing fingers...

ClockHand
05-06-2011, 10:31 PM
People blame Sony because we all need someone to take fall. That's what human likes to do, right? Pointing fingers...

That is not the reason at all. The reason about why is Sony is being blamed is for the lack of information to the consumers. They took almost a week to say that users information was leaked, and that is the whole reason why people is and should be pissed against Sony.

And I not only blame Sony for the bad strategy after the Hacking of their system, but also to take advantage of it and gave a free temporal service with financial reasons.

LVUER
05-06-2011, 10:36 PM
So Sony should have released the info the moment they got hacked?

BTW, I think I'm lucky to delay my plan to buy PS3 ^_^ So I haven't connect to PSN at all...

Ozzaharwood
05-07-2011, 01:39 AM
0$

I guess you got what you paid for then.

EDIT: Also, Sony admitted to not updating their security for 4 years, therefore, it's their fault.

LVUER
05-07-2011, 02:04 AM
4 years!? Oh, great... even an antivirus that haven't been updated for 1 month is already considered as old...

Arashi500
05-07-2011, 02:17 AM
I'll give that Sony is at fault for not releasing the information sooner, but that is about all thats truly their fault alone.

On the security update, it'd take enormous ammounts of downtime to update an international network, and Apple is known for taking up to a decade for security updates, to give a sense of scale. Upgrading your personal antivirus program is radically different than deciding to update a network. What they could do is possibly offer an optional program with non-forced updates.

CypressDahlia
05-07-2011, 07:32 AM
Dokken: Only playing console games is a crime considering the best games of all time have either been exclusively on PC or also had PC ports. And you said "PC elitists", so I thought I would detail why the PC is superior in every possible way.

Hayashida
05-07-2011, 04:28 PM
Dokken: Only playing console games is a crime considering the best games of all time have either been exclusively on PC or also had PC ports. And you said "PC elitists", so I thought I would detail why the PC is superior in every possible way.

Hey cypress, cypress. Are you listening? Cypress? Hey Cypress? Im gonna kill you

GunZet
05-07-2011, 04:34 PM
He's right though. I see no UT2K4 on consoles. And we all know what happened when UT3 came to consoles.....Just sayin'. I love consoles.

ClockHand
05-07-2011, 04:40 PM
I'll give that Sony is at fault for not releasing the information sooner, but that is about all thats truly their fault alone.

On the security update, it'd take enormous ammounts of downtime to update an international network, and Apple is known for taking up to a decade for security updates, to give a sense of scale. Upgrading your personal antivirus program is radically different than deciding to update a network. What they could do is possibly offer an optional program with non-forced updates.


The problem is that they knew there was a gate in their security and they didn't fix it.

Hayashida
05-07-2011, 05:14 PM
He's right though. I see no UT2K4 on consoles. And we all know what happened when UT3 came to consoles.....Just sayin'. I love consoles.
Hey Gunzet, gunzet. Are you listening? Gunzet? Hey Gunzet? I'm gonna kill you

Arashi500
05-09-2011, 12:29 PM
The problem is that they knew there was a gate in their security and they didn't fix it.

I have yet to see any information regrading them not fixing a known breach in their defenses. If I just happened to have missed it, please do link. On that point, I'll say gain, all security systems can be broken into.

jubeh
06-03-2011, 05:42 PM
Welcome packages are up get yo free games

CypressDahlia
06-03-2011, 06:27 PM
Lol, I find that really ironic. That their consolation for people who were complaining about the downfalls of a free service is...more free stuff.