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Fenn
04-09-2011, 08:23 PM
I find myself at an awkward, half-decade long impasse in my anime fandom. For a time I was a solid fan of the "typical" animes, mostly Pokemon for a long time and then Yu-Gi-Oh. Eventually, though, I outgrew those shows, while my love of drawing them only heightened. The more I drew anime, the less I watched it.

I never got into manga despite loving it as well. I own the first 4 chapters of Buso-Renkin which were decent, and 2 books from the Kingdom Hearts manga which I LOVED. But still, as my artistic skills got better I just never got hooked.

So I feel completely out of place. I love anime and manga, draw it often, but never watch it even though the commercials, forums, and my friends all make them sound so interesting. I'm lost as to what to do. Is anyone else in my position, or am I a unique case?

jubeh
04-09-2011, 09:00 PM
You are probably developing taste and as that happens anime is going to seem less and less appealing as most of it doesn't really rely on strength of writing. I'm not an expert on the anime/manga industry but it seems that due to the incredibly competitive nature of the business concepts thrown at editors are more important than actual writing skill. I mean dont get me wrong -- shonen manga is one of my guilty pleasures. But I never read them to be stimulated. I just like cool fights.

If you're still interested in anime you may just have to work harder to find stuff you'll like which usually isn't the "mainstream" stuff. Man I hate that word. There are lots of shows that won't insult your intelligence, you just have to search for them.

Also busou renkin is super cliche but is basically a better version of bleach and includes one of the most awesome fictional characters of all time -- Papillon Mask.

Fenn
04-09-2011, 11:29 PM
You are probably developing taste and as that happens anime is going to seem less and less appealing as most of it doesn't really rely on strength of writing. I'm not an expert on the anime/manga industry but it seems that due to the incredibly competitive nature of the business concepts thrown at editors are more important than actual writing skill. I mean dont get me wrong -- shonen manga is one of my guilty pleasures. But I never read them to be stimulated. I just like cool fights.

If you're still interested in anime you may just have to work harder to find stuff you'll like which usually isn't the "mainstream" stuff. Man I hate that word. There are lots of shows that won't insult your intelligence, you just have to search for them.

Also busou renkin is super cliche but is basically a better version of bleach and includes one of the most awesome fictional characters of all time -- Papillon Mask.

I think that's it...most of them are either too slow-paced or too cliche. I suppose the stuff that worked when I was 10 won't now. Thanks for the reply, I think I'll try to focus on manga over anime for awhile; it makes for a better drawing reference anyway.

So I'm not an isolated case then?

Ozzaharwood
04-09-2011, 11:53 PM
Definitely not. A lot of people feel the same way -- I know this because I've heard it from the mouths of many people -- you just have to find something that you will enjoy reading/watching. If you need some suggestions, ask and you shall receive.

Alexander_Hamilton
04-10-2011, 01:20 AM
I'm in that exact same position. XD I barely watch anime or read manga these days, unless webcomics can count as manga. However, I decided to give Higurashi a go tonight because it sounded interesting, and I'm enjoying it so far. So if you have no place to start, might want to give it a look-see (http://www.animefreak.tv/watch/higurashi-no-naku-koro-ni-episode-1-english-dubbed-online-free).

GunZet
04-10-2011, 02:16 AM
I never watch Anime anymore. But I read manga every so often. I just find the art and story so much more.. raw.

But I barely draw anime style anymore..

CypressDahlia
04-10-2011, 04:43 AM
...However, I decided to give Higurashi a go tonight because it sounded interesting...

lol. Did someone suggest this to you? If so, they're a cruel person. For a person who doesn't regularly watch anime, Higurashi is an ironic choice as it represents a very...extreme archetype that appeals to a very narrow audience.

You will see what I mean.


Saying you don't have interest in anime is like saying you don't have interest in live-action. Anime is way too huge of a thing to clump together into a giant brick. It's a type of programming, not a genre or something--you know what I mean? You just gotta find what TYPE of anime you're interested in.

Fenn
04-10-2011, 09:25 PM
Well I feel relieved now. However, I'm not sure it's that I don't have an interest in anime...just not in anime as entertainment. For some odd reason, I'm indifferent about watching it, but totally enthused about anime as an art form.

Still, I'll certainly explore some anime to see if I find something I like. I know one big interest I have is in combat heavy anime that have a "science" to the battles. A big example would be like how in Naruto the spectating characters actually comment on and analyze the match-up. Basically an anime series that promotes in-depth "who would win in a fight between____________." conversation. That stuff I really enjoy.

CypressDahlia
04-11-2011, 05:18 AM
Your genre is: Shonen.

Rio
04-11-2011, 01:06 PM
You should try some martial arts or sports anime then. They're really big on techniques, training regimens, and all that usually.* But yeah, I get what you're feeling. I hardly watch anime anymore and if I do watch, it's only because I liked reading the manga that I check out the animated version.

* Some recommended titles:
Kenji - details martial arts movements, history, and techniques
Capeta - kart racing.. and later F1
Ookiku Furikabutte - baseball; read the manga, it's much easier to follow than the anime as far as tactics and strategy go
Fantasista - soccer
Hunter x Hunter - martial arts (by the same guy who did Yu Yu Hakusho)
Rurouni Kenshin - martial arts (by the same guy who did Buso Renkin)
Battle Angel Alita & Battle Angel Alita: The Last Order - martial arts/sci-fi

Sylux
04-11-2011, 02:18 PM
I watch anime a lot but that's only because I'm grounded from the computer so I have nothing better to do than watch shit on Funimation Channel and Netflix Instant Queue. I'm probably a die-hard anime fan, but I don't wear it on my shirt. You'd probably never guess I was into anime from a normal conversation with me or by looking at me, because I don't inject anime into everything. You see a lot of fans (I'm not going to say weeaboos, but weeaboos) who wear stupid kawaii anime hats and dumb T-Shirts that say Getsuga Teshou on them or get some moe-chan desu nee socks and eat Pocky and drink Ramune all the fucking time. There are lots of anime fans who aren't total dumbasses, Fenn, you just gotta believe and search for them. You make a new friend. Ask him if he's into anime after getting to know him pretty well. If he likes it you have another fan-friend. If he doesn't, no harm no foul.

CypressDahlia
04-11-2011, 03:26 PM
I never understood the entire "weeaboo" thing.
How is "wearing stupid anime hats" different from sports fans wearing their favorite jerseys around?

The term "weeaboo" is one of those really stupid self-justified internet things. A weeaboo is bad because they are a weeaboo, not because of some concrete reasoning as to why what they do is bad. Just that, one day, someone on the internet decided "this is bad", made a word for it and let it carry. You said it yourself: the only difference between you and a "weeaboo" is that you don't wear your fandom on your sleeve, despite sharing similar interests. lol In other words, there //is// no difference.

But that internet peer pressure is really something, huh? Will make people ashamed to be //interested// in things, for chrissakes. There are a lot of people out there with absolutely //unhealthy// obsessions with things that "internet folk" find absolutely acceptable to spend hours of your day mulling over like pornography (or H), hacking into young girls' photobuckets for nude pictures and stalking jailbait over Facebook ie. the reason why /b exists. I don't see a derogatory term for that. Yet there is one for people who have a healthy interest in anime and Japanese culture?

Honestly, Sylux.

Hayashida
04-11-2011, 03:36 PM
Cypress makes a good point. I have to say, I kind of agree with him. Displaying your favourite anime is pretty much the same as displaying your favourite sports team on an item of clothing. I dunno why such a stigma has been placed on the former though.

Fenn
04-11-2011, 04:39 PM
You should try some martial arts or sports anime then. They're really big on techniques, training regimens, and all that usually.* But yeah, I get what you're feeling. I hardly watch anime anymore and if I do watch, it's only because I liked reading the manga that I check out the animated version.

* Some recommended titles:
Kenji - details martial arts movements, history, and techniques
Capeta - kart racing.. and later F1
Ookiku Furikabutte - baseball; read the manga, it's much easier to follow than the anime as far as tactics and strategy go
Fantasista - soccer
Hunter x Hunter - martial arts (by the same guy who did Yu Yu Hakusho)
Rurouni Kenshin - martial arts (by the same guy who did Buso Renkin)
Battle Angel Alita & Battle Angel Alita: The Last Order - martial arts/sci-fi

Kenji sounds awesome! I've always been interested in martial arts. How's the blood/gore factor? I'll deal with some but it's not my preference. I'm still totally checking this out.


I watch anime a lot but that's only because I'm grounded from the computer so I have nothing better to do than watch shit on Funimation Channel and Netflix Instant Queue. I'm probably a die-hard anime fan, but I don't wear it on my shirt. You'd probably never guess I was into anime from a normal conversation with me or by looking at me, because I don't inject anime into everything. You see a lot of fans (I'm not going to say weeaboos, but weeaboos) who wear stupid kawaii anime hats and dumb T-Shirts that say Getsuga Teshou on them or get some moe-chan desu nee socks and eat Pocky and drink Ramune all the fucking time. There are lots of anime fans who aren't total dumbasses, Fenn, you just gotta believe and search for them. You make a new friend. Ask him if he's into anime after getting to know him pretty well. If he likes it you have another fan-friend. If he doesn't, no harm no foul.

...I get what you mean but that wasn't really my concern.


I never understood the entire "weeaboo" thing.
How is "wearing stupid anime hats" different from sports fans wearing their favorite jerseys around?

The term "weeaboo" is one of those really stupid self-justified internet things. A weeaboo is bad because they are a weeaboo, not because of some concrete reasoning as to why what they do is bad. Just that, one day, someone on the internet decided "this is bad", made a word for it and let it carry. You said it yourself: the only difference between you and a "weeaboo" is that you don't wear your fandom on your sleeve, despite sharing similar interests. lol In other words, there //is// no difference.

But that internet peer pressure is really something, huh? Will make people ashamed to be //interested// in things, for chrissakes. There are a lot of people out there with absolutely //unhealthy// obsessions with things that "internet folk" find absolutely acceptable to spend hours of your day mulling over like pornography (or H), hacking into young girls' photobuckets for nude pictures and stalking jailbait over Facebook ie. the reason why /b exists. I don't see a derogatory term for that. Yet there is one for people who have a healthy interest in anime and Japanese culture?

Honestly, Sylux.

I was under the impression "weeaboo" defined someone who, through anime fandom, obsessed over Japanese culture without actually knowing anything about it. I do have a problem with people claiming to be educated on something they have no clue about.

Simply being a super-dooper-anime fan, and being outward and passionate about it, is completely acceptable.

Anyway, I feel like, for me, anime will always be about the art before the actual show. Oh well.

CypressDahlia
04-11-2011, 04:52 PM
Naw, part of being a weeaboo is going out of your way to learn //more// about Japanese culture. But learning is hardly harmful, especially if it transcends cultural barriers.

You might like shows like Grappler Baki that really delve into things regarding techniques (some, of course, exaggerated well beyond plausibility), a lot of mid-fight analysis and a variety of martial arts. TOUGH is a great manga that is similar, but also goes beyond the ring and talks about things like efficient dieting, healing and nursing methods including things like acupuncture, massage and regurgitating poison and other relevant shit like this. There's some magic/mystical kung fu type stuff thrown in there for good measure. But it's rare.

jubeh
04-11-2011, 05:21 PM
I don't want to turn this into a semantics thing but I've always understood a weaboo to be somebody who feels japan is superior to their country of origin either due to ignorance or superficial reasons.

If it's just a person who is interested in japanese culture and history then I am a super weaboo since I own every eiji yoshikawa book that has made it to america and I eat an unhealthy amount of ramen.

Hayashida
04-11-2011, 06:00 PM
Oh yeah. Isn't the term for someone who really likes anime and manga an Otaku rather than a Weaboo?

CypressDahlia
04-11-2011, 08:57 PM
Not on the internet, apparently. A weeaboo, according to the common netizens, is just a person who is obsessed with anime/Japanese culture. Yet I fail to understand how wearing T-shirts with Japanese phrases, using Japanese pronouns or wearing anime themed attire constitutes "obsession". It's one of those things where they take a generally harmless thing and try to apply as negative an inflection on it by carefully picking and choosing the most convicting words. Yet, it's extremely easy to be labeled a "weeaboo", despite the fact that "obsessed" seems like a very high order of interest that most people wouldn't qualify for. If you even admit to liking anime on some forums, they'll call you a weeaboo.

It all really makes no sense. It's kind of like anti-furdom in a sense where they KNOW there is a --small-- target demographic within a large group of like-interest people that the term "furfag" addresses. Yet they try to clump even the most mildly interested people together with the "furfags" (ie. "I wear fursuits in public and fantasize about sex with animals") based on extremely general likenesses (like having one or two anthropomorphic OCs) that otherwise wouldn't qualify you for such an exclusive label. They just want to villainize everyone in that field of interest.

So what you say may be true. That MAY be the definition of weeaboo, in truth...but people sure do use it loosely.

Ozzaharwood
04-11-2011, 11:00 PM
This is an interesting turn of topics... O____O

I suggest Darker Than Black and Ghost in the Shell. But iunno, that's just what popped into my head when I thought of the stuff you like.

Hamachi
04-12-2011, 01:36 AM
Most Southeast Asian countries would probably have entire segments of their youth designated as weaboos in that regard. Seriously, every self-respecting bookstore will have at least several shelves stacked full with mangas, and every family-oriented TV station would have at least a few animes in their repertoire. I'd want LVUER's and Commander Naz's affirmations on this, but I'm pretty sure the phenomenon is fairly widespread.

I dunno. Maybe Asians associate with Japanese culture more readily than Westerners? Having lived there, I'd say that even most adults would hold the same kind of nostalgia towards anime as Americans have towards Saturday morning cartoons. So it's really funny to find that something held normal where I grew up would be seen as socially awkward elsewhere.

CypressDahlia
04-12-2011, 07:54 AM
I'm surprised that you're surprised. It's the internet. Here, it's even a crime to care about something, get upset, or be vehement or passionate about something. They call that "getting trolled", "raging", "QQ" and a slew of other things to make an otherwise completely natural response seem unnatural and unwarranted. Like I said, people love to villainize completely normal things yet there are far worse things which are either applauded or ignored (like being a general dick). If you ignore them, you have to suck it up and pretend you don't care, despite how much it bothers you. You basically lie to yourself for appearances' sake. If you acknowledge them, you "get trolled". It's like a win-win setup not in your favor. It's kinda fk'd up.

ClockHand
04-12-2011, 10:32 AM
I don't know, for my a weeabo is just a kid dressed as akatsuki, screaming kawai and running like naruto on the street. And obviously when you talk with him he only knows about naruto and bleach.

Also I think the term weeabo born to make a differenciation between the nerd/otaku with the naurtard or dumbtaku.

Superdooperphailmachine
04-12-2011, 03:04 PM
I've always understood weeaboo as an annoying idiot who throws japanese words into sentences for no good reason and think that Japan is the best place ever due to anime/manga and all that.

ladyannette
04-12-2011, 03:59 PM
First I will talk about the original topic.

I found that the more I strayed from looking through my Naruto cards and manga, the less I was inclined to draw anime/manga. Instead, I took up realistic faces. My friend on the other hand, watches almost no anime and has stopped requesting manga (more likely because she finished Death Note than anything else) from the library, and her anime/manga style has soared in greatness. You are not a strange case in need of observation; my theory is that you spend the time on drawing instead of watching/reading.

Now, on to weeaboo.

I HATE that word almost as much as I hate people calling themselves "otaku". My little story that really isn't related all that much.

Once I was in a Japanese restraunt. I asked my waitress (who was also the owner and I know her), if I could practice with her. She agreed, and I ordered, in Japanese, for my entire table. I know basic convo Japanese, I try to use it so I don't lose it. She corrected what needed correcting in my speech and then turned away to get our orders.

Then, my oh, my, do some people have nerve. Some kid, probably 17-18 (this was two years ago), had the nerve to walk up to me adn tell me I "must be a f*ckin weeaboo for ordering like that". Really?

I have spent (at that point, two) years studying Japan (NOT because of anime). I study language, history, culture, ettiquet, etc. because I like foreign countries. I like learning. Japan is just the country I've chosen for now. Soon, I'll start on France (and probably refresh Germany).

Back on subject:

In my oppinion, weeaboo should be reserved for those who want to go live in Japan but efuse to learn anything about it "because they have anime".

I have a Japanese Flag in my room. I am no weeaboo.
I have a Naruto shirt I love to bits and pieces. I am no weeaboo.
I eat Pocky instead of "normal" candies (it has less sugar) regularly. I am no weeaboo
My earliest bits of Japanese were things I picked up like "Damare" and "Baka". I'm still no weeaboo.

Person X only knows the words "kawaii" and "sugoi". And overuses them.
Person X doens't need to take Karate becuase they watch Naruto.
Person X thinks "otaku" is a good thing.
Person X thinks they can live in Japan like a native because they've watched anime.
Person X is the weeaboo here.

See what I'm saying?

Hayashida
04-12-2011, 04:05 PM
You should've beaten up that guy who called you a weaboo for ordering in japanese. what a loser

ladyannette
04-12-2011, 04:07 PM
I was not even 15 yet. I couldn't. Or I would have.

Hayashida
04-12-2011, 04:14 PM
Sure you could. You can get away with it when you're young.

ladyannette
04-12-2011, 04:31 PM
:ascii_nuhuh: He would've beat me up. I'm not exactly strong. :monkey_scaredycat:

ClockHand
04-12-2011, 04:45 PM
@Ladyannet

I don't get it, you have a japanese flag? I don't even have a flag of my country in my bed room, and in the national parties when you are forced to have one in the backyard, I'm extremely disgusted (nationalism for the losers).

I don't know how Otaku is a bad word, is the same as nerd (for me at least). So i'ts not bad, but rather has becone bad by the bad representants who call themselfs otakus (weeabos).

Also I don't get your logic, because any of those propositions let you deny that you are not a weeabo (you need a propostion that define weeabo first).


And finally, how old are you? I think this is rather important, because if you see a 14 years old kid with a naruto shirt and running like a ninja on the street, more than a weeabo, he is just a kid. But having 24 or more, make you a weeabo and creepy.

Fenn
04-12-2011, 05:43 PM
:monkey_dammit:

ladyannette
04-12-2011, 05:57 PM
@Ladyannet

I don't get it, you have a japanese flag? I don't even have a flag of my country in my bed room, and in the national parties when you are forced to have one in the backyard, I'm extremely disgusted (nationalism for the losers).

I don't know how Otaku is a bad word, is the same as nerd (for me at least). So i'ts not bad, but rather has becone bad by the bad representants who call themselfs otakus (weeabos).

Also I don't get your logic, because any of those propositions let you deny that you are not a weeabo (you need a propostion that define weeabo first).


And finally, how old are you? I think this is rather important, because if you see a 14 years old kid with a naruto shirt and running like a ninja on the street, more than a weeabo, he is just a kid. But having 24 or more, make you a weeabo and creepy.

"Otaku" was an old word meaning posession ("it's yours" or "it's your thing") in Japanese. Now it has come to mean "40 year old dude who obsesses over pokemon and lives in his parent's basement because he's too busy going to con to get a job" and is an insult in Japan.

The flag was a gift from a WWII vetran in my neighborhood. He gave it to me for Christmas.

I was trying to illustrate that some people (like me) are just interested in different countries and shouldn't have to avoid taking interest in Japan because the true weeaboos (the obssessors who really don't know a thing as illustrated by Person X) and how people really should learn the facts before jumping to conclusions and name calling. I also don't think weeaboos are restricted to anime/Japan related stuff. I've found people who claim to be big fans of certain bands but can only name one song. I've found people who claim to love certain authors and their works but have only read one title.

And I am 16 thank you.

ClockHand
04-12-2011, 06:05 PM
The flag was a gift from a WWII vetran in my neighborhood. He gave it to me for Christmas.

This make everything a lot more nice.



I was trying to illustrate that some people (like me) are just interested in different countries and shouldn't have to avoid taking interest in Japan because the true weeaboos (the obssessors who really don't know a thing as illustrated by Person X) and how people really should learn the facts before jumping to conclusions and name calling. I also don't think weeaboos are restricted to anime/Japan related stuff. I've found people who claim to be big fans of certain bands but can only name one song. I've found people who claim to love certain authors and their works but have only read one title.

And I am 16 thank you.

Yes, still, your proposition's doesn't tell us if you are or not a weeabo and under that, if you are or not biased by your own being.

You have 16, making you young and naive, and with a critery that is still in developtment. I wouldn't call you a weeabo, but I would call you young.

Hamachi
04-13-2011, 12:20 AM
About that culture exposure bit. I think I'm slightly scarred.

True story: While I was flying back from the States, a Korean uni group asked me for directions (in Korean, obviously). As I stopped to buy stuff in Tokyo the shopkeepers bowed and said unintelligible things in Japanese (at which point I would smile, say "Domo!" and run for it after handing them the money), and when I transited through Taiwan the customs officers told me what to do in Mandarin.

Yeah. Having the generic Asian face doesn't really help at all when you're flying overseas, unless you're looking for a nightmare of awkward moments. Apparently even speaking in English gets me in trouble, because when I went to Singapore the friends my friends knew said "We thought you were Singaporean until you started talking!" ... Gee, thanks, guys.

Arashi500
04-13-2011, 12:31 AM
I had always though weeaboo applied to people who know nothing about japanese culture/history aside from anime and japanese pop-culture, but make themselves out to be experts on the country, and everything about it.

Fenn, A good Shonen anime I recommend is Soul Eater. My relationship with anime is weird. I enjoy watching it, but rarely am I ever engrossed by a show enough to watch two or more episodes in one sitting.

Hamachi
04-13-2011, 12:39 AM
Yep. There are people who are culturally aware and other people who try to blend in a foreign country by doing stuff like this:

http://i.imgur.com/8cSYK.jpg

CypressDahlia
04-13-2011, 01:03 AM
You check out Baki the Grappler and TOUGH yet, Fenn?

ClockHand
04-13-2011, 01:06 AM
@Hamachi

He was trying to find the Asian Plan for World Conquest.

jubeh
04-13-2011, 02:25 AM
I've wanted to read baki for ages but the art is too grotesque for me. I've heard that the artist does that on purpose for deep reasons but I just can't get past that.

Sylux
04-13-2011, 02:59 PM
Simple definitions.

Weeaboo: dumbshit.

Otaku: Otacon-smarts.

Fenn
04-13-2011, 06:49 PM
I had always though weeaboo applied to people who know nothing about japanese culture/history aside from anime and japanese pop-culture, but make themselves out to be experts on the country, and everything about it.

Fenn, A good Shonen anime I recommend is Soul Eater. My relationship with anime is weird. I enjoy watching it, but rarely am I ever engrossed by a show enough to watch two or more episodes in one sitting.

Soul Eater, got it. I never watch for more than an hour either.


Yep. There are people who are culturally aware and other people who try to blend in a foreign country by doing stuff like this:

http://i.imgur.com/8cSYK.jpg

Maybe he just likes wearing that hat? Right? Riiiiight...?


You check out Baki the Grappler and TOUGH yet, Fenn?

When my life lets me breathe I will.

Rio
04-13-2011, 07:42 PM
Kenji has no bloodshed. It's an older manga and quite wholesome. TOUGH and Grappler though has like teeth flying out and all that so they're a bit more brutal.

Delphinus
04-13-2011, 08:08 PM
Try Serial Experiments Lain, anything by Satoshi Kon (proof that God doesn't exist: Satoshi Kon died at age 46), and Naoki Urasawa's Monster for a cross-section of cerebral anime. I don't watch anime as often as I used to, but what I do watch is either comedy of some variety or seinen. Protip: if it has an English or instrumental song as its opening, it's probably more intellectual than the typical fare.

Since I like summarising animes through AMVs, here's a selection:

Monster - Terrifyingly realistic, set in 1990s Eastern Europe just after the collapse of the Berlin Wall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03TDNHoTns0

Serial Experiments Lain - Philosophical cyberpunk, pondering the future of the internet and identity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaFayr9zI-8

Paprika (Satoshi Kon) - Psychological thriller, totally warped but incredible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdjjJKqr-sA

Hamachi
04-13-2011, 11:15 PM
Maybe he just likes wearing that hat? Right? Riiiiight...?


Next time I head out to the Big Apple, remind me to wear my straw hat and overalls so I can complete the cycle.

Rio
04-14-2011, 03:28 PM
^^^
The problem with that is they won't look at you funny so that defeats the purpose.

ClockHand
04-14-2011, 05:27 PM
You know is quiet possible that the guy with the hat is just doign it for the lawls.

Fenn
04-14-2011, 08:18 PM
Should we just make a weeaboo thread?

Delphinus
04-14-2011, 08:23 PM
Yep. There are people who are culturally aware and other people who try to blend in a foreign country by doing stuff like this:

http://i.imgur.com/8cSYK.jpg
I love the way the commuters are all facepalming and looking away aside from that one cool guy on the left who's smirking like the awesome guy he is.

Fenn
04-16-2011, 08:59 PM
I love the way the commuters are all facepalming and looking away aside from that one cool guy on the left who's smirking like the awesome guy he is.

I know. He's the only one who's handling the situation the smart way.