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N_Top
03-11-2011, 08:55 AM
Hopefully you all have heard about this by now, but if not:

The largest earthquake in Japan's recorded history rocked Japan on Friday, March 11, 20011, shaking cities and villages along a 1,300-mile stretch of coastline with terrifying tremors felt as far away as Tokyo, hundreds of miles from the epicenter. The quake killed at least 60 people and unleashed a monster 30-foot-high tsunami that sent ships crashing into shore, wiped away homes, and carried cars through the streets of towns. Tsunami warnings were issued for the entire Pacific, including Hawaii, South America, Canada, Alaska and the whole West Coast of the United States.

Here (http://www.life.com/image/first/in-gallery/57631#index/0)is a photo gallery of what's going on there right now.

GunZet
03-11-2011, 08:58 AM
Damn that's actually a lot worse looking than I thought O_O.
Well...this sucks. I wonder if it's connected with what happened in New Zealand, like a trigger.

Hell_Baron
03-11-2011, 09:14 AM
Well, scientist claim that it may have something to do with the moon being close to the earth, thus disturbing the gravitational field between Earth and the moon. luckily this is only temporarly.

Blue_Dragon
03-11-2011, 09:18 AM
There's been a lot of plate movement around, there too--from what I've heard. Wasn't there an earthquake in Japan just a couple days/weeks ago? I know about the New Zealand one, but I thought there'd been a different on not too long ago in or near Japan (before this one, of course.)

GunZet
03-11-2011, 09:55 AM
Yea, Japan had a few other quakes before this one happened. And yes the moon is gonna be a bit prettier March 19th. But apparently nothing big is supposed to happen, although there are those people who want to put fear in the mix. Saying the gravitational force is gonna be so strong there will be widespread disasters.

Hell_Baron
03-11-2011, 09:59 AM
True... but there could be one more possibility...

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs19/f/2007/302/1/4/Siniscoccer_by_TheNamelessTailled.jpg




....oh

Hayashida
03-11-2011, 10:40 AM
I hope Ceta is ok
edit: Wait I just saw a post of his in the game section, so I guess that means he's good.

GunZet
03-11-2011, 12:15 PM
Don't forget Rei bro.

Kodos
03-11-2011, 12:37 PM
Rei needs to post and let us know he's okay. I know he's never on MSN anymore, and since he's been busy lately he hasn't been on AIM. Does anyone know any other means of contacting him? I suppose DA Note would work.

MiKuRu
03-11-2011, 01:12 PM
Was watching this live like a few hours ago.. Damn it was bad... Now when I think about it... Is Rei staying in Japan atm or is he still in America?

Kodos
03-11-2011, 01:20 PM
I think he is supposed to be back in Japan by now.

ClockHand
03-11-2011, 01:21 PM
All japan was affected? or was certain zones?

Man, in Rapa Nui they are preventing if a tsunamy happens. (Rapa Nui = Pascua Island).

GunZet
03-11-2011, 02:10 PM
I think it's just certain parts. But one thing's for sure, all of Japan is feeling it.
Also, I heard a giant whirlpool started up.

ClockHand
03-11-2011, 02:18 PM
Yeah I saw the whirlpool and the explosions throught the tv.

Lucifer
03-11-2011, 02:33 PM
Just heard on the news there was supposed to be another quake in the Nagano prefecture. Isn't that relatively close to where Rei lives (assuming the info on his profile is correct)?

GunZet
03-11-2011, 02:55 PM
Hopefully there won't be another quake.

Rio
03-11-2011, 02:59 PM
Hopefully there won't be another tsunami as well. When is the tsunami supposed to reach Hawaii and the west coast?

GunZet
03-11-2011, 03:11 PM
I heard some 5ft waves already reached somewhere. I forgot whether it was Hawaii or Cali.
But I think bigger waves are going to follow, hopefully not.

Ceta
03-11-2011, 05:01 PM
All japan was affected? or was certain zones?
Just certain areas, mostly to the north of Japan. Since I live in the south, the damage was next to zero. The tremors were felt and the buildings swayed a bit, but it was quickly over and everyone resumed whatever they were doing as usual.

ClockHand
03-11-2011, 05:16 PM
Man, good that you are ok and nothing big happened where you were.

GunZet
03-11-2011, 05:35 PM
Too bad the same can't be said for those certain areas :cat_remorse:

Lucifer
03-11-2011, 05:35 PM
What's all this shit I'm hearing about radiation leakages around the Fukushima plant? Some reports say radiation levels are 8 times higher whilst the AFP(?) reports a radiation level that's a thousand times bigger than usual.

ClockHand
03-11-2011, 05:37 PM
I didn't heard that, but more about that the plant is getting hot and they are sending stuffs to cold down the plant.

GunZet
03-11-2011, 05:39 PM
What's all this shit I'm hearing about radiation leakages around the Fukushima plant? Some reports say radiation levels are 8 times higher whilst the AFP(?) reports a radiation level that's a thousand times bigger than usual.

I heard that it started to get really hot and they had to release some radiation vapors. But that might not be it.

Lucifer
03-11-2011, 05:40 PM
If you're referring to US Naval Vessels bringing in some coolant, yes, I heard that too. But I think that might have been a different plant. Apparently the pressure in the Fukushima reactor is climbing and they are thinking about venting some of the reactive vapour into the air in order to lower that pressure.

Nothing seems to have been vented yet, but there's already radiation leaks... That aint good.

ClockHand
03-11-2011, 07:38 PM
I saw the news of that plant.

Well now that hard study in college and university should work.

Ozzaharwood
03-11-2011, 08:27 PM
Rei is okay guys. He posted on his RSS, he is still in Japan and he was riding the subway when it happened. None of his stuff is damaged, but he hasn't said anything much more.

DrPumpkin
03-11-2011, 09:10 PM
There are literally cracks in the ground near the place I live.

Really hoping that the number of deaths don't rise.

ClockHand
03-11-2011, 09:19 PM
But you and your family are ok?

DrPumpkin
03-11-2011, 09:29 PM
Yeah. The shaking was really strong where we were, but we're okay.

Crimsonrose760
03-11-2011, 10:18 PM
Here Are Some Shocking RAW Videos from YAHOO about the Earthquake/Tsunami:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theenvoy/20110311/ts_yblog_theenvoy/watch-raw-footage-of-the-japan-earthquake-and-tsunami

Whats your Reaction?

There have been Rumors about A Radiation LEAKAGE from a Plant in Japan...
Can anyone clarify this???

Crimsonrose760
03-11-2011, 10:28 PM
I'm thinking of making a commission about the Earthquake/Tsunami in Japan......

Evil_Cake
03-11-2011, 10:50 PM
no theres 2 many things like that already and they're lame

LVUER
03-11-2011, 10:50 PM
@Crimsonrose760:
Yeah, they're all over the news and internet. Tens of thousand of people were ordered to evacuate on first notice. 10 of 54 commercial plants that Japan have must be shut-down.

Japxican
03-11-2011, 10:53 PM
Praying for everyone in Japan.

Kodos
03-11-2011, 10:55 PM
Two hands working can do more than a thousand hands clasped in prayer. Rather than asking an imaginary friend for help, my advice for anyone who actually cares is to donate money to any of the various international aid groups like the Red Cross, and/or to donate blood.

Even if you can only donate 10 dollars, that is still infinitely more helpful than prayer. And also never underestimate the power of exponents. Your 10 dollars may not be much, but if 10,000 people each donate 10 dollars, well now we're getting somewhere.

And I imagine that to someone who just lost their home, 10 dollars is better than nothing.

Crimsonrose760
03-11-2011, 11:23 PM
@ Kodos:
As a Christian.. I'm kinda offended by the (Imaginary Friend part) BUT... in a way You are correct...
If you really Do Care about the disaster and the People do something productive donate blood, money or even clothes....
Of course... this isn't about Religion, its about UNITY, to help People.... Regardless of your beliefs...
But for those people who do believe in a Higher Power... Although Prayer is a Big factor for us believers there are some things that can't be done by Faith alone you have to do some ACTION.... Lets not all Pray for a Miracle...BECAUSE WE ARE THE MIRACLE... WE MAKE THINGS HAPPEN... We have the power to turn the world...

IF there are 5 people in a boat... 1 is Sick and... 4 people just Prays will anything be done?.. Do you expect the sick will live?

Prayer without Action is Useless...... We all have to help....
PRAY for their Safety and Survival of the people..... ACT to Save Lives....

LVUER
03-11-2011, 11:27 PM
How do you donate blood to red cross? And how can we be sure this blood will be used in Japan, not just for your country?

Crimsonrose760
03-11-2011, 11:33 PM
@LVUER
Never forget the power of asking... the blood goes to all countries in need... since Japan is most needed there would be alot of blood shipped to japan... it doesnt matter if your blood gets there... what matters is that there are more blood in stock...donate blood and red - cross would do the rest...

Kodos
03-11-2011, 11:35 PM
@ Kodos:
As a Christian.. I'm kinda offended by the (Imaginary Friend part)
Take it to Psalm 14.

BUT... in a way You are correct...
No. Not in a way. In every way. Prayer will do literally nothing to help these people.


If you really Do Care about the disaster and the People do something productive donate blood, money or even clothes....
Of course... this isn't about Religion, its about UNITY, to help People.... Regardless of your beliefs...
Yes. Donate crap. But really there are people who need help all the time. It shouldn't take an obvious and horrific disaster to make people suddenly start caring. Donating shit to the needy is something anyone with the means should be doing at all times.


But for those people who do believe in a Higher Power... Although Prayer is a Big factor for us believers there are some things that can't be done by Faith alone you have to do some ACTION.... Lets not all Pray for a Miracle...BECAUSE WE ARE THE MIRACLE... WE MAKE THINGS HAPPEN... We have the power to turn the world...

IF there are 5 people in a boat... 1 is Sick and... 4 people just Prays will anything be done?.. Do you expect the sick will live?

Prayer without Action is Useless...... We all have to help....
PRAY for their Safety and Survival of the people..... ACT to Save Lives....
Whatever.


How do you donate blood to red cross? And how can we be sure this blood will be used in Japan, not just for your country?
I've never actually donated blood because I tend to get light headed, and since I've got a fear of needles. I usually donate money instead. So I honestly don't know how.

As for the second question, does it matter? Who cares where the people you help are. You are helping people. A person who needs blood in your homecountry needs blood just as much as a person in Japan who needs it. That should be enough.

LVUER
03-11-2011, 11:48 PM
I do donate my blood regularly (I'm a healthy man with lots of blood ^_^ ) and I don't really care where my blood goes usually. Though this time, I just want to know if my blood actually goes to Japan where lots of people would need it... (need blood transfusion I mean, not specifically my blood...)

ClockHand
03-12-2011, 12:02 AM
If you are going to donate goods, you need to gave: food (in can), cloth (good cloth in good conditions), tents, sleeping bag and toilet paper.

Also look what are the goods that are needed in the websites or asking people what is needed.

violin
03-12-2011, 01:24 AM
@LVUER,I really don't think they'll ship blood there. They can always make a campaign for blood donation in Japan itself - it will be faster, cheaper and more efficient. It's good that you donate blood though.

Ceta
03-12-2011, 04:46 PM
To my knowledge, no blood banks will accept blood from overseas. In addition, blood banks won't even accept blood from foreigners living in Japan. So, if you're thinking about making a blood donation, don't bother unless you're Japanese.

Food, supplies and money are the better things to donate.

PWhit
03-12-2011, 08:01 PM
I saw the huge wave uprooting houses in there... damn that's rough.

violin
03-12-2011, 08:27 PM
I hope nothing bad happens with the nuclear reactor as what they said on the news sounded really bad.

Regantor
03-12-2011, 09:06 PM
Hey guys. I just read the NISA (http://www.nisa.meti.go.jp/english/index.html) report on the state of the Fukashima nuclear reactors and I thought I'd give you a rundown of what I can glimspe using my limited nuclear knowlage.

It looks like cooling system on one of the four reactors blew out, followed by a fire in the turbine building. The fire was extinguished, but the leak still caused a local release of 500 MicroSv/h in radioactive material. This is enough to cause level two radiation sickness, but is NOT FATAL.

A ten kilometre radius has now been evacuated around the plant. Out of the 195 people who have (currently) been examined from the area, it doesn't look like anybody has gotten a perticularly bad taste of it.

They currently seem to be using sea water to flood the affected reactor complex, which I guess is a pretty good idea all things considered, but kind of a messy clean up operation later because it's salt water. >_>

Reg's hopes go out to the victims of this disaster, for what's it's worth...

Hayashida
03-12-2011, 10:03 PM
Dunno if this has been posted yet, but you can apparently text REDCROSS to 90999 to donate $10 to help those affected by the earthquake and tsunami. Also, go to their website (http://www.redcross.org/portal/site/en/menuitem.94aae335470e233f6cf911df43181aa0/?vgnextoid=bfc13a56d35ae210VgnVCM10000089f0870aRCR D) to learn more aboot it.

Ceta
03-13-2011, 08:00 AM
For those who are willing to make donations, here's a list of organizations that you can send donations to:


AMERICAN RED CROSS (https://www.networkforgood.org/donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=530196605&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS): Emergency Operation Centers are opened in the affected areas and staffed by the chapters. This disaster is on a scale larger than the Japanese Red Cross can typically manage. Donations to the American Red Cross can be allocated for the International Disaster Relief Fund, which then deploys to the region to help. Donate here (https://www.networkforgood.org/donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=530196605&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS).



GLOBALGIVING (https://www.networkforgood.org/donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=30-0108263&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS): Established a fund to disburse donations to organizations providing relief and emergency services to victims of the earthquake and tsunami. Donate here (https://www.networkforgood.org/donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=30-0108263&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS).


SAVE THE CHILDREN (https://www.networkforgood.org/donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=060726487&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS): Mobilizing to provide immediate humanitarian relief in the shape of emergency health care and provision of non-food items and shelter. Donate here (https://www.networkforgood.org/donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=060726487&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS).


SALVATION ARMY (https://www.networkforgood.org/donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=222406433&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS): The Salvation Army has been in Japan since 1895 and is currently providing emergency assistance to those in need. Donate here (https://www.networkforgood.org/donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=222406433&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS).


AMERICARES (https://www.networkforgood.org/donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=061008595&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS): Emergency team is on full alert, mobilizing resources and dispatching an emergency response manager to the region. Donate here (https://www.networkforgood.org/donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=061008595&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS).


CONVOY OF HOPE (https://www.networkforgood.org/Donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=680051386&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS): Disaster Response team established connection with in-country partners who have been impacted by the damage and are identifying the needs and areas where Convoy of Hope may be of the greatest assistance. Donate here (https://www.networkforgood.org/Donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=680051386&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS).

INTERNATIONAL MEDICAL CORPS (https://www.networkforgood.org/Donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=953949646&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS): Putting together relief teams, as well as supplies, and are in contact with partners in Japan and other affected countries to assess needs and coordinate our activities. Donate here (https://www.networkforgood.org/Donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=953949646&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS).


SHELTER BOX (https://www.networkforgood.org/Donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=200471604&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS): The first team is mobilizing to head to Japan and begin the response effort. Donate here (https://www.networkforgood.org/Donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=200471604&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS).


Copy and pasted from the Yahoo! How to Help page. Click here to see the original message. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_newsroom/20110311/wl_yblog_newsroom/japan-earthquake-and-tsunami-how-to-help)

Hamdrank
03-13-2011, 09:33 AM
Lol hope my girlfriends summer home was destoryed. Jk but kinda mad at her for saying she moved to Japan forever plus we hardly talk. On the other hand I coulda sworn that for an 8.9 earthquake the damage wasn't so bad. Until the aftershocks took in at first. I really am not viewing the news since I get a little sad when things happen that are so bleak. So don't know much.

Outcast
03-13-2011, 10:06 AM
Lol people dying! It's almost as bad as the weaboo asking if his fetish boat anime would air on time.

Rio
03-14-2011, 11:11 AM
Nice list, Ceta. I'll borrow it and post it at the main site.... :swipes:

Reset
03-14-2011, 12:38 PM
I Commiserate for Japan. I never know about this earthquake till read this thread, cuz too busy working on my coursework. I hope Oda Sensei and Kisimoto Sensei is okay. I understand how its impact Japan, hopefully this is not as bad as the tsunami in Aceh.

Kodos
03-14-2011, 04:23 PM
For those who are willing to make donations, here's a list of organizations that you can send donations to:


AMERICAN RED CROSS (https://www.networkforgood.org/donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=530196605&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS): Emergency Operation Centers are opened in the affected areas and staffed by the chapters. This disaster is on a scale larger than the Japanese Red Cross can typically manage. Donations to the American Red Cross can be allocated for the International Disaster Relief Fund, which then deploys to the region to help. Donate here (https://www.networkforgood.org/donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=530196605&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS).



GLOBALGIVING (https://www.networkforgood.org/donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=30-0108263&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS): Established a fund to disburse donations to organizations providing relief and emergency services to victims of the earthquake and tsunami. Donate here (https://www.networkforgood.org/donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=30-0108263&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS).


SAVE THE CHILDREN (https://www.networkforgood.org/donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=060726487&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS): Mobilizing to provide immediate humanitarian relief in the shape of emergency health care and provision of non-food items and shelter. Donate here (https://www.networkforgood.org/donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=060726487&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS).


SALVATION ARMY (https://www.networkforgood.org/donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=222406433&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS): The Salvation Army has been in Japan since 1895 and is currently providing emergency assistance to those in need. Donate here (https://www.networkforgood.org/donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=222406433&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS).


AMERICARES (https://www.networkforgood.org/donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=061008595&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS): Emergency team is on full alert, mobilizing resources and dispatching an emergency response manager to the region. Donate here (https://www.networkforgood.org/donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=061008595&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS).


CONVOY OF HOPE (https://www.networkforgood.org/Donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=680051386&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS): Disaster Response team established connection with in-country partners who have been impacted by the damage and are identifying the needs and areas where Convoy of Hope may be of the greatest assistance. Donate here (https://www.networkforgood.org/Donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=680051386&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS).

INTERNATIONAL MEDICAL CORPS (https://www.networkforgood.org/Donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=953949646&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS): Putting together relief teams, as well as supplies, and are in contact with partners in Japan and other affected countries to assess needs and coordinate our activities. Donate here (https://www.networkforgood.org/Donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=953949646&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS).


SHELTER BOX (https://www.networkforgood.org/Donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=200471604&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS): The first team is mobilizing to head to Japan and begin the response effort. Donate here (https://www.networkforgood.org/Donation/MakeDonation.aspx?ORGID2=200471604&source=YAHOO&cmpgn=NEWS).


Copy and pasted from the Yahoo! How to Help page. Click here to see the original message. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_newsroom/20110311/wl_yblog_newsroom/japan-earthquake-and-tsunami-how-to-help)
I'd advise anyone who cares about equality, though, to support any of those organizations besides the Salvation Army. The SA is openly homophobic and has supported various anti-gay politicians and legislature. As Ceta's nicely made post shows, there are plenty of other organizations that you can donate to if you are interested in helping the victims of this tragedy.

GunZet
03-14-2011, 05:02 PM
That nuclear plant situation isn't looking too good O_o.

Rio
03-14-2011, 05:17 PM
No it's not. It's also grizzly how a bunch of bodies just washed up to the shore this weekend... D:

PWhit
03-14-2011, 07:17 PM
I'd advise anyone who cares about equality, though, to support any of those organizations besides the Salvation Army. The SA is openly homophobic and has supported various anti-gay politicians and legislature. As Ceta's nicely made post shows, there are plenty of other organizations that you can donate to if you are interested in helping the victims of this tragedy.

Wouldn't that be entirely beside the point if the Salvation Army is making an effort to help others in need? For all we know the Sally Army could be helping homosexual persons in Japan at the very moment.

ClockHand
03-14-2011, 07:28 PM
If you gave stuffs to the SA then you are supporting them, also if they help homosexuals, they are also going to try to convert them. The SA is famouse for trying to convert people as a price for their help.

PWhit
03-14-2011, 07:46 PM
How would they know if someone is homosexual unless the person makes it completely obvious? Plus I doubt people would listen to the underlying message thoroughly or even care about it when they are trying to get the bare basics of survival.

Hayashida
03-14-2011, 07:48 PM
Stay on topic, guys.

LVUER
03-14-2011, 08:40 PM
I also believe lots of local bank/TV station in your city/country make movement to donate something to Japan. At least they are in my country.

violin
03-14-2011, 08:59 PM
The easiest way to donate is directly to the Japanese Red Cross through Google: http://www.google.com/crisisresponse/japanquake2011.html
The process is fast and easy.

LVUER
03-14-2011, 09:18 PM
I know. And I really like how I just dial from my mobilephone to donate. But since some people fuss over homo or what-not support if they donate via international organization, why not donate via your local bank or TV station?

Kodos
03-14-2011, 09:52 PM
There are other groups you can donate to that have all the positive effects of the Salvation Army and none of the negative effects of the Salvation Army. There is literally no reason anyone should donate to the Salvation Army unless they are okay with the idea of oppressing homosexuals and proselytizing to needy, vulnerable, people.

As for the on-topic stuff, this quote from SA pretty much does a good job describing how silly the fearmongering around the Nuclear Plants has been:
"An earthquake and tsunami just made thousands of miles of coastline unlivable, killed thousand of people, forced evacuations of countless more, and devastated the economy"

"That really sucks"

"Oh, and there's a small chance that a few square miles around a nuclear plant may be off limits for a while."

"BAN NUCLEAR POWER"

Also I would like to point out that Japan has not actually asked for foreign aid yet, most likely due to their absurd ganbere attitude. So if you are one of the people - and there are plenty of them - who is only donating to help Japan (probably because of MY ANIMUS) then there is a very good chance that your donations made at this time will never reach the Japanese. That said, your donations will be reaching people who need them just as badly, and you are still doing a great deed.

Hell_Baron
03-15-2011, 05:29 AM
It's funny that you mention the whole "OMIGAWSH2NUCLEARPLANTSJUSTBLEWUPTHATMEANSOURSCOULD BENEXTLET'SBANNUCLEARPOWERFOREVAH" discusion.
i mean, it's complete bogus!
first off: nuclear power is one of the cleanest ways to produce electricity, and the chance of a meltdown is pretty slim.
second off: WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?! IT'S COUNTRY HUNDREDS OF MILES AWAY, WHICH JUST SO HAPPENS TO STAND ON TEKTONIC PLATES! EUROPE HAS NEVER HAD ANY EARTHQUAKES TO OUR KNOWLEDGE IN LIKE TWO THOUSAND YEARS!!!

Forgive me for my little outburst, but i'm pretty sure you guys get my point...

Delphinus
03-15-2011, 05:56 AM
Also, banning nuclear power is a really stupid way to solve potential problems with nuclear reactors in the case of an earthquake. Designing reactors in areas with a lot of seismic activity to be earthquake-proof in addition to the safety measures taken on all reactors is a far less extreme and more pragmatic solution. It seems likely that the people arguing for the banning of nuclear power are the same fucktard luddites who argue for abandoning use of electricity (rather than focusing on renewable or nuclear sources) and claim that living in the woods "like the natives, maaaaaan" is infinitely better than living in a modern house. They probably also have long, greasy hair and wear homemade clothes and smoke a lot of weed. Potentially they also live in a commune.

Tl;dr: Damn hippy stoners want to ban nuclear power for stupid reasons.

Ceta
03-15-2011, 06:59 AM
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?! IT'S COUNTRY HUNDREDS OF MILES AWAY, WHICH JUST SO HAPPENS TO STAND ON TEKTONIC PLATES!
Go back to whatever rock you crawled out from under, douchebag. Come back when you have gained some sympathy and common sense.

Byakuran
03-15-2011, 07:12 AM
Owned.

Delphinus
03-15-2011, 07:12 AM
Go back to whatever rock you crawled out from under, douchebag. Come back when you have gained some sympathy and common sense.
Way to take things out of context (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_quoting_out_of_context), Ceta. He meant that because the geography of Japan and of Europe are so dissimilar, it doesn't make sense to ban nuclear power in Europe based on events in Japan. That sentence was poorly worded, but not a sign of any lack of sympathy.


Owned.
No.

Hell_Baron
03-15-2011, 07:37 AM
Look what i'm trying to say (and believe me i have sympathy) is that people tend to be all hysterical about nuclear power, seen as it is related to nuclear weapons. however, what i meant's with the "WTF is wrong with you" sentence is that people say that "we" could be next. for what? earthquakes and tsunami's? that is what i meant with i being complete bullshit to ban nuclear power worldwide,
because 2 major powerplants in Japan had a meltdown, now i'm not saying this couldn't happen anywhere else (*couch* Tsjernobyl *couch*), but to a ban to nuclear power? what, is it better to poison the air we breathe and speed up global warming, by using powerplants which create electricity by burning oil and coal?
people are getting freaked out for something that's a extremely rare ocurence.
As far as i know it's only happened 2 times before in history.

just sayin

Ceta
03-15-2011, 08:23 AM
It's as you said:


That sentence was poorly worded

While I didn't mean to take that out of context, the statement was incredibly difficult for me to connect to the nuclear power topic. The first part I was able to figure out just fine, but the second was definitely not well written. I don't use English on a daily basis so it's hard for me when things are written sloppily. Anyway, I take back what I said now that I understand.

Hell_Baron
03-15-2011, 08:52 AM
http://www.mediaenkranten.nl/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/japannuclearfalloutmapcanadabcabskwestcoastuniteds tateswashingtoncalifornia.jpg

What you're looking at here is a worst case scenario when the shit really hits the fan.

Delphinus
03-15-2011, 09:14 AM
500 rads in one hour is considered a lethal human dose.

Worst-case scenario: several US states are killed off. o__o

GunZet
03-15-2011, 09:26 AM
Man what the hell. That would suck considering it'd still reach Colorado <_< >_>. Mostly likely not though.

Hell_Baron
03-15-2011, 09:54 AM
Worst-case scenario: several US states are killed off. o__o

Don't forget Canada!

But still, this is a worst case scenario, so it doesn't mean it'll actually happen... in other words: hopefully.

EDIT: There's actually some "christian" bitch who claims the quake in Japan was the cause of her prayers to god...
WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU WOMAN?!
look, i got nothing against religion (with some exceptions), but how the freaking hell can you say that?!
I'm not going to post the video of that Christ-troll , seen as i don't want to defile the site wich such westboro baptist propaganda filth.
but if you want to see it, her name's tamtampamela or something.
a little sidenote tough, this video may give you the urge to punch your monitor...

now if you excuse me i'm going to take a shower.

GunZet
03-15-2011, 10:00 AM
It's getting worse form what I'm hearing. But yea that IS the worst case afterall. That pic is more like the worst of the worst case lol.
Hopefully if it does go like that, most of the radiation will be lost at sea...although not good for anyone traveling through there.

PWhit
03-15-2011, 03:53 PM
I sense a release of Fallout 5: Tokyo soon to a local GameStop...

All kidding aside, after previous and the current set of security and repair scandals with TEPCO I wouldn't be surprised if something like what the Nuclear Fallout Map is showing happens. Plus lots of people are getting rad poison over in Japan already. I hope it gets resolved soon.

Delphinus
03-15-2011, 03:57 PM
There's actually some "christian" bitch who claims the quake in Japan was the cause of her prayers to god...
WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU WOMAN?!

She's actually an epic troll that's been rolling for a few years. Yo got trolled, son. ;)

N_Top
03-16-2011, 01:06 AM
There are 50 emergency workers staying at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear facility to make sure that worse case scenario doesn't happen. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110315/ts_yblog_thelookout/japanese-nuclear-plant-workers-emerging-as-heroic-figures-in-tragedy)

Ceta
03-16-2011, 08:07 AM
I'll be glad when this is all over. Last night there was a 6.0 earthquake in Shizuoka prefecture, which is the prefecture just east of mine. Pretty scary knowing that things are starting to hit much closer to home.

GunZet
03-16-2011, 08:20 AM
I heard about that. 6.0 is a helluva aftershock o_o
And I really hope those people stay over at the facility stay alright.

Byakuran
03-16-2011, 09:40 AM
Aah man i wish the best to japan... D:

i don't have any money yet, but i'll try to save some money... there haven't been any collectors here yet D: ...

butternut
03-16-2011, 10:37 AM
I heard there is one more earthquake of about 7 yet to come this week. How true is that? Really hope things don't get worse..

Ceta
03-16-2011, 10:46 AM
I heard there is one more earthquake of about 7 yet to come this week. How true is that? Really hope things don't get worse..
Hard to say, but after seeing some of the news reports today, it's not unlikely. I'm really hoping not, though, since I'm definitely not prepared.

Hell_Baron
03-16-2011, 10:50 AM
Say, wasn't Codfish Japanese?
i wonder what happened to him...

Puck
03-16-2011, 11:55 AM
I heard about this and it sounded bloody awful. My sympathy and prayers go out to all those who are affected by the tragedy. I know that's not much, but hopefully that and the donation I made to the Red Cross will help someone.

Jpg
03-20-2011, 01:28 PM
Radiation already reached California & Washington.

PWhit
03-20-2011, 01:48 PM
You interested me, where'd you hear that from?

Psy
03-20-2011, 02:38 PM
I have been reading a few reports around the web and la has not detected anything but sacramento (I'm fairly close to there) has detected radiation. They say that it is so minuscule it poses no health risks but there is enough of it to be detected. It's expected that the entire northern hemisphere will be hit with it. I think what they said was detected was zenon-133?

Is there a more accurate or up to date posting of what is currently happening in japan ATM? I am hearing death totals in the hundreds then the thousands and even more people are just missing. I just want to know the real facts of it all. This is all just horrible.

GunZet
03-20-2011, 06:04 PM
I heard something about like 6k people dead and around 10k missing.
Radiation found in spinach.
And some of the reactor coolers are functioning again.

That's about all I got as of late.

LVUER
03-20-2011, 09:13 PM
From what I heard this morning from International South Korea TV network, Arirang...
- The victim from tsunami and the earthquake has reached more than 20.000.
- The radiation has indeed reached US, but didn't get much cover.
- The radiation has been found in spinach and milk from Fukushima area. So people are avoiding all kind of food from that area. Also radiation has been found in tap water in tokyo area. But those radiation are so small that even you eat/drink those products for many years to come, it's equivalent to be x-ray/CT-scanned once.
- Reactor 1 from Fukushima power plant has been restored and working again (since the cooling reactor also have been working)
- Lots of people are stranded in Sendai, they don't have any means of transportation to go out (no car, no gas, and so on) and they couldn't be evacuated either.
- No looting or other crime even in condition like this. Amazing, isn't it, how Japanese people react/behave even in dim situation like this...

ClockHand
03-20-2011, 09:23 PM
In most picture japeneses are looking to the distance or the emptyness, so is not shocking to find that they are not looting.

LVUER
03-20-2011, 09:27 PM
But there is still some standing buildings in other areas. Besides, people have been evacuated to "safer" location and shelter. But really, in other countries, looting and all kind of other crimes are committed in time like this.

ClockHand
03-20-2011, 09:35 PM
Of course, because people want to live and they are in a extreme situation.

Also have you see japaneses in concerts (metal or rock)?

LVUER
03-20-2011, 09:54 PM
That's why I'm really fascinated with Japanese people courage (or whatever, I'm not really good with English) to face this hard times. They don't commit crimes even in time like this. Thumbs up for them.

ClockHand
03-20-2011, 10:45 PM
I wouldn't call it courage. I will call it passive.

Kodos
03-21-2011, 07:31 AM
That's why I'm really fascinated with Japanese people courage (or whatever, I'm not really good with English) to face this hard times. They don't commit crimes even in time like this. Thumbs up for them.
Look, I hate to be cynical towards the victims of a horrible tragedy, and Americans are mostly filth, yes, but this is just silly. The primary reason you don't have looting in Japan is because there is nothing left to loot in the heavily hit areas where looting would otherwise be expected.

Ozzaharwood
03-21-2011, 07:36 AM
I kind of have to agree. You will always have looters and people who try take advantage of these sorts of things no matter where you are if they can. I just think in these circumstances they can't.

Bacon_Barbarian
03-21-2011, 09:38 AM
- The radiation has indeed reached US, but didn't get much cover.


Because it's an extremely negligible amount. As is the amount in Tokyo.

Also 2 of the 6 recoters are now "stable" hearing that on NPR threw me for a loop. I thought only 3 of the 6 ever went out of control.

Rio
03-21-2011, 12:37 PM
I kind of have to agree. You will always have looters and people who try take advantage of these sorts of things no matter where you are if they can. I just think in these circumstances they can't.
They may not be personally and physically loot the affected areas but there are potential charity scams that can arise through this situation.

Kodos
03-22-2011, 11:14 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42208038/ns/world_news-asiapacific/?GT1=43001&#37;60
http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-smug.gif

ClockHand
03-22-2011, 11:18 AM
Who says is impossible to steal a bank?

Blue_Dragon
03-22-2011, 11:22 AM
The first to point out it's missing probably did it. They should check the police headquarters. That Miyagi sounds pretty suspicious.

Bacon_Barbarian
03-22-2011, 12:16 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42208038/ns/world_news-asiapacific/?GT1=43001&#37;60
http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-smug.gif

Even if that prooves your point, is that really something to be proud of Kodos?

ClockHand
03-22-2011, 12:51 PM
I don't think is something to be proud, is something to kill the naivity of people.

Everyone is would take advantage of these situation, just think that you have a family without home, no food, etc. Are you going to let your kids die of hunger and illness, just to wait your turn in the long wait for being helped?

Kodos
03-22-2011, 01:37 PM
Even if that prooves your point, is that really something to be proud of Kodos?
Yes. People have these hilarious weaboo fueled ideas about ~GLORIOUS NIPPON~ and think that it's some sort of utopian place where there is no crime and everything is good. In reality Japan is a country like any other. It's pretty good with the crime rate, but that likely has something to do with the whole culture of oppression they have going. And when it comes to women's rights they are probably worse than America, and that's saying something.

So yes, I am proud and happy to lift the blinders and show people reality. Because this whole "THE JAPANESE ARE PERFECT AND DID NOT LOOT UNLIKE THE AMERIKKKANS LOL!" meme is stupid and retarded.

Byakuran
03-22-2011, 04:26 PM
Not a single country,person,culture is perfect and everyone should know that . - .

People make mistakes :/

PWhit
03-22-2011, 07:20 PM
The world kind of sucks, yeah. But Japan is getting the refrigerated shoulder as opposed to the cold or frozen shoulder.

Oh yeah, I was watching a bunch of the Japanese people sleeping in a soccer dome today on the news. At least they have (or had) shelter out of the radiated areas available to people.

Bacon_Barbarian
03-24-2011, 09:51 AM
What radiation? There's some near the Power Plant (an in it of course), but really most of it's negligible.

Kodos: :/

It was a nice country when I visited (as in it didn't seem oppresive towards women). Then again, I was at a girls only quaker school.

Anywho, if you want to give 10$ txt Japan to 90999. Paypal is also running a campaign to donate directly from there site.

Kodos
03-24-2011, 01:45 PM
It's a country, Bacon, where women are routinely groped on trains and it is considered bad manners for them to react negatively to this.

That's an enormous fucking problem. We have subway gropings here in New York (although no where near as frequent) but we don't react poorly when a woman, rightly so, reacts to fucking sexual assault.

But that's neither here nor there. Anyway. XKCD is usually awful, but it had a good bit about the radiation.
http://xkcd.com/radiation/

Bacon_Barbarian
03-24-2011, 02:45 PM
Yeah, I guess that's a probem, I never saw it happen so I guess it never occured to me... Anyway, a country in need is a country in need.

Is their a single webcomic you like?

Kodos
03-24-2011, 05:57 PM
XKCD has it's moments, don't get me wrong, but most of the time Munroe is either being creepy or mistaking elitism for humor.

That said, I love Sexy Losers and it's my favorite webcomic ever. Oglaf is also great, although it can be a bit hit-or-miss at times. Penny Arcade is often brilliant, although I think it was funniest around 2002-2007 or so. I also am not too fond of Gabe's newest artstyle, nor of how they handled the whole Dickwolves situation.

LVUER
03-24-2011, 08:30 PM
The groping is not alright, really. If you report those gropers to police, they will throw them into jail for being perverts and disturbing public peace. The problem is that Japanese culture values public over personal. So if they don't want to over-react to something that may cause a scene or makes them looks different. I don't know if I can describe it since I'm not really good at English. Anyway, this kind of behavior is exactly why bullying is another common problems in Japanese school.

Bacon_Barbarian
03-24-2011, 08:35 PM
No, you described it LVUER, but it's still wrong.


XKCD has it's moments, don't get me wrong, but most of the time Munroe is either being creepy or mistaking elitism for humor.
Ah. Well the creepy is entertaining. Sometimes.


That said, I love Sexy Losers and it's my favorite webcomic ever. Oglaf is also great, although it can be a bit hit-or-miss at times. Penny Arcade is often brilliant, although I think it was funniest around 2002-2007 or so. I also am not too fond of Gabe's newest artstyle, nor of how they handled the whole Dickwolves situation.
I thought you didn't like Penny Arcade, or am I mixing that up with something else?

Also, I'm gonna' start a Webcomic thread so we don't completely de-rail this.

Didn't you say you dislike

Delphinus
03-25-2011, 07:02 AM
The problem is that Japanese culture values public over personal. So if they don't want to over-react to something that may cause a scene or makes them looks different.

If you think the Japanese are the only ones who care more about public and corporate interests more than individual ones, you're wrong. Nobody cares about individuals any more, unless they're celebrities who are - you guessed it - backed by corporate interests. Welcome to the post-modern world, baby; your life is information and your identity is a reconstructed pastiche of old tropes. ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kx05kU5gZg

LVUER
03-25-2011, 08:20 AM
It seems you are misunderstanding a bit about my statement. Then I have a question here. Let say your kid making loud noises, screaming, yelling, or whatever in public bus or space. What will you told to your kid and why?
1. Is it more, "stop it, you are embarrassing me"
2. Or it is more, "stop it, you are disturbing the others"

@Bacon_Barbarian:
And why I'm wrong? Give more description.

Bacon_Barbarian
03-25-2011, 11:01 AM
You're not wrong, it's wrong.

Rio
03-26-2011, 11:25 AM
You're not wrong, it's (groping) wrong.

There. Fixed.

Bacon_Barbarian
03-26-2011, 10:26 PM
There. Fixed.

Yeah. I think I'm clear when I'm not...

LVUER
03-26-2011, 10:31 PM
Oh, I see. You mean the groping that is wrong. Yeah, of course I completely agree with that. What I'm saying is that they bring it upon themselves (or something like that? I'm not really good with English).

Bacon_Barbarian
03-26-2011, 10:34 PM
Yes, and they should stop "bringing it upon themselves" and alow the woman to speak out without repercussions.

LVUER
03-26-2011, 10:44 PM
About that, it's not only for woman, man also isn't expected to stand out or doing anything out of ordinary (or routine). It's just woman suffer worse than man. Emancipation... is that what they need? It will be hard for strong cultured and tradition country like Japan. Hey, it's also hard in my country, there's a case where one woman that almost elected as a president must step down just because a tradition/culture that forbid woman from taking charge over man.

Psy
03-27-2011, 02:23 AM
I remember reading an article about the groping stuff in japan. It said that woman ARE stoping the men. They tell them to grab the arm of the offender and yell something out and report them to the police around there in those booths. There is supposed to be two options for the men at that point. Either go to jail or pay a fine. The fine is supposed to be pretty steep but the woman who reports it all gets zip. There is also supposed to be women only cars on the trains now for womens safety.

Ceta
03-27-2011, 09:08 AM
Emancipation... is that what they need?
No, that's not it. I'm pretty sure 'equality' is the word you're looking for.


I remember reading an article about the groping stuff in japan. It said that woman ARE stoping the men.
There are women who do, but there are some who are still too scared to do so.


There is also supposed to be women only cars on the trains now for womens safety.
While I don't know if it's just my area or if it's all over Japan, the women-only cars are not 24/7. They are only in action during set hours of the day. In addition, there are only one or two cars available so if it's full, you'll need to either wait for the next train or tough it out in the regular cars. It's not so bad for the subway, though, since the trains come every few minutes.

PWhit
03-27-2011, 11:15 AM
Stereotyping and prejudice are staples of human interaction and nature. It can't really be stopped but keeping an open mind certainly is worth teaching and doing, IMHO.

ryuk8apples
03-27-2011, 01:40 PM
i heard from cousin that they are moving all pregnant women and children under three on naval bases close to radiation to other parts of japan or other countries. ( I do not know if this is true or what just saying what i heard)

Kodos
03-27-2011, 09:23 PM
Stereotyping and prejudice are staples of human interaction and nature. It can't really be stopped but keeping an open mind certainly is worth teaching and doing, IMHO.
Except it can be stopped. We can never - without the aid of transhumanism - remove the racist and bigoted impulses from humanity, yes, but we can stop ourselves from acting on them.

Every single human being has bigoted feelings and urges at times. It is how we evolved. A fear of the Other is a big part of our genetic makeup. And yet we do not all actively behave as bigots. Clearly the fact that we all have bigoted urges from time to time does not mean we all need to act on them. Saying what you're saying is tantamount to throwing up your hands and saying, "Well, I tried!" and pardoning all the bigots.

Yara
03-28-2011, 01:26 AM
Just skimmed a few pages quickly..

well, what happened there just shocked everybody.

I hope the radiation problem gets solved quickly.. It's like Hiroshima but in another way.

I guess the other countries should re-think about nuclear reactors engineering. Some people think we shouldn't use nuclear energy, but I really don't know since I'm not aware enough about it.

P.S. Glad the pumpkin and Ceta are Ok ^^ .. hopefully Rei is too

Sorry for popping up in a sudden >_< I saw the title and couldn't resist

Ozzaharwood
03-28-2011, 05:29 AM
T___T

Rei is fine

Yara
03-28-2011, 06:15 AM
Thanks, Oz
I guess I missed reading that ^^"

Ozzaharwood
03-28-2011, 09:17 AM
Lmao, yeah. I posted it, and I guess no one saw it because whenever I talked to someone on MSN or something Japan would come up and they'd end up asking me about Rei. I don't think one person saw it.

PWhit
03-28-2011, 12:46 PM
Except it can be stopped. We can never - without the aid of transhumanism - remove the racist and bigoted impulses from humanity, yes, but we can stop ourselves from acting on them.

Prejudice comes in many different forms, whether it is through government or de facto behavioral patterns. I agree we can stop the impulses but bigotry is, in itself, unstoppable.


Every single human being has bigoted feelings and urges at times. It is how we evolved. A fear of the Other is a big part of our genetic makeup. And yet we do not all actively behave as bigots. Clearly the fact that we all have bigoted urges from time to time does not mean we all need to act on them. Saying what you're saying is tantamount to throwing up your hands and saying, "Well, I tried!" and pardoning all the bigots.

I did not intend to phrase my statement in a way that pardons any wrongful behavior of others. I am saying bigotry cannot be stopped entirely. We can teach as much tolerance as we want but we will still see stereotyping, racism and other things that fuel prejudicial mindsets. People don't have to behave in a hateful way to have a hateful mindset.

Delphinus
03-28-2011, 02:01 PM
Some things deserve to be hated. Toleration of the existence of detestable things is unacceptable; where do you draw the line between bigotry and justice?
There are religious practices which harm a significant number of people and that would be unacceptable according to modern law: let's use honour killings as an example. Is it bigotry to say that murder on the basis of adultery is still murder, regardless of whether it's condoned by religious belief? Is it likewise bigotry to say that religions that cause such unhealthy notions in people should be eliminated?
If a small group condoned murder for certain members of the group who broke the rules, they'd be labelled deviant and the police would probably arrest their leader for incitement to murder. Is that an example of bigotry against a minority and failing to respect others' beliefs?

Shinyy
04-07-2011, 02:19 PM
They can't get a break.

PWhit
04-07-2011, 03:33 PM
Yeah... a 7.0 eathquake right after a tsunami... damn!

LVUER
04-07-2011, 08:42 PM
Well, the experts have predicted there will be many follow-ups Earthquakes. Actually, that's normal. What I'm afraid is the reactor.

Shinyy
04-07-2011, 11:32 PM
Sooooo say that the red cross starts the relief effort again, because I'm guessing that like we are back to where we started when the first earthqake it, are they going wait a little while to throw a shit ton a money to aid Japan? Because if you said is true about more earthquakes happening.., then we re-build a little, fix some damages and BAM, another hit...

LVUER
04-07-2011, 11:54 PM
No, but what I'm saying is just don't get surprised with another big earthquakes because that happens every time. I also live in a country that often hit by Earthquake, so it's not surprising.

Byakuran
04-08-2011, 03:28 PM
Aftershocks right?

Ceta
04-08-2011, 04:01 PM
Yeah. It'll probably be a while before things finally settle down here. I'm thankful I live far enough away that it wasn't a problem; by the time it reached where I live, the magnitude was around 2.0. I feel sorry for everyone living in the north, though. Just one problem after another. I wish I could do something to help aside from donating money, but I've got too many of my own problems to deal with. D:

Slurpee
04-10-2011, 08:19 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/tam12/AEU10-1/ed3e75b0.gifSomething to lighten the mood >_>

Evil_Cake
04-10-2011, 01:30 PM
??

PWhit
04-10-2011, 02:39 PM
(Off-Topic: Is this a Justin Bieber Contest?)

On-Topic: I saw an upfront article on Japan. A lot of people are cutting back on their spending but it doesn't look like it's helping much at all. Any news on the reparation plan?

ClockHand
04-13-2011, 11:16 AM
So apparently japanese survivors are killing looters. And there has been many arrests against looters and rapists.

So who was saying that everything was in order?

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2011/04/13/vigilante-gang-vs-looter-if-we-kill-him-whod-know/

Delphinus
04-13-2011, 08:08 PM
The looters are pretty cool guys, the rapists less so.