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PWhit
02-16-2011, 08:18 PM
This is a thread on racism, as you may have guessed. Now let's get down to the topic and questions and make this as simple as possible.

What do you consider racism?
Is Racism something that is unavoidable and/or needed in human existence?
Is everyone in the entire world, no matter how hard the try not to be, a racist?
Is it possible to be racist against your own race?
Is your government, at times, racist?

Please keep in mind racism is not only just White vs. Black people. It could be Arabs vs. Israelis, Chinese vs. Japanese, Hispanics vs Blacks, Irish vs. English... and many others.

GunZet
02-16-2011, 10:02 PM
This is a thread on racism, as you may have guessed. Now let's get down to the topic and questions and make this as simple as possible.

What do you consider racism?
Is racism a fact of life?
Is prejudice a staple to human existence?
Is everyone in the entire world, no matter how hard the try not to be, a racist?
Is it possible to be racist against your own race?
Is your government, at times, racist?

Please keep in mind racism is not only just White vs. Black people. It could be Arabs vs. Israelis, Chinese vs. Japanese, Hispanics vs Blacks, Irish vs. English... and many others.

1: I consider racism to be when someone shows superiority over another race that is not their own. Before I got older, racism was just a white man in a white hood to me.

2: Yes...it'll never go away as long as it is passed on by dumbfucks throughout the
generations. Ignorance never dies.

3: Yep.

4: A little. My dad has a general hate for whites and some Mexicans, and he tried to pass that on to me. I don't dig it, everyone's equal in my eyes. As long as they don't do something stupid.

5: Exhibit A:
http://img318.imageshack.us/img318/2323/ruckus7fiei2.jpg

6: It's America, what do you think? Here in Denver, I swear our police force is being taken over by Neo-Nazis because of the amount of beatings, mostly racial. I've read some of the stories Westwords.

My opinion on 'heavy' racism. (Because light racism won't cease and I could give a shit).
Is that anyone who happens to be a turbo racist/nazi/supremicist, I don't care the race. They need to be made sterile or eradicated. I'd do it myself but...I don't have an army :C

Hamachi
02-16-2011, 10:02 PM
I like to make fun of my Canadian buddies, but they share the same sentiment. We're mutually racist!

PWhit
02-16-2011, 10:30 PM
Some people are in different countries GunZet. You never know what to expect.

GunZet
02-16-2011, 10:36 PM
Then I'm speaking from an American POV...because it's where I live. lol.
On the same race racism though.
I'm pretty sure there's this thing where 'black' people really hate 'Africans' and vice versa.

ClockHand
02-16-2011, 10:37 PM
1. Racism is just the belief that a genetic factors that constitute a race is determinant of human traits and capacities. The use of this to make social, service and job delimitations, it would be racist discrimination.

2. Racism as a belief is a reality. There is a lot of people who still believe that being black is equal to be good at basket ball and music, while being asian is equal to be good to math.

But also people of different races have different physilogic features, and under biological and scientific level it can be talked about races (and it does). Specially in Human Antropology where are specialist who can determinate the race of a individual just looking the bones.

3. As said above, racism is defined as a prejudice.

4. If you believe that a genetical factor of a race is determinant to his traits, then you are racist. You don't need to hate the other race, you can be just stupid and believe in a common racist stereotype. Someone can change? yes they can, if they change their belief.

5. Be the definition above: Yes.

6. Probably.


Also, at my knowledge there are few races that are real: Caucassian, Negroid, Mongoloid, Polinesian and other (I don't remember everything). Japanese is a nationality, and they are mongoloids (the ancient japanese weren't mongoloids, but they don't existe anymore), the same goes for canadians, philipines, etc (a lot of races are mixtures of races. The clasification of races were made to know their distintional physiological features and some genetic qualities. Also because old scienties were racists).

GunZet
02-16-2011, 10:40 PM
Does Hawaiian fit on that list? Cuz you know...they're this mix of Japanese and other stuff, I think. I watched this documentary or whatever on how Hawaiians outcast the ones who speak in pidgin, and so it's like...bleh.

ClockHand
02-16-2011, 10:43 PM
Hawaiians are polinesics.

But also, who in these days has a pure genetic race (lol this sounds nazi)? I'm a mix between Indigenous, Caucassian and who knows what else (Latin American).

Japanese are the less genetically mixed, but also they have the longest inbreeding ever made.

GunZet
02-16-2011, 10:56 PM
I read somewhere that most black peeps are like 12% something random European due to the slave days.
Actually, on my moms side, I have a little Irish and Native American, and on my dads side, mostly Native American...

So ye, I agree Clock. Nobody is really pure anymore lol.

Kodos
02-17-2011, 03:15 AM
This is a thread on racism, as you may have guessed. Now let's get down to the topic and questions and make this as simple as possible.

What do you consider racism?
Holding the belief and/or behaving as though there are distinct mental traits, behaviors, or biases that are an intrinsic part of a person's racial heritage which can not be explained as a result of their memetic heritage.

Is racism a fact of life?
This question is vague. Be more clear.

Is prejudice a staple to human existence?
This question is vague. Be more clear.

Is everyone in the entire world, no matter how hard the try not to be, a racist?
Everyone is slightly racist in belief, yes, but that's like saying that because everyone lies from time to time that everyone is a liar. I would argue that descriptive terms like "liar" or "racist" have to refer to strongly held beliefs and/or long-term behavioral patterns. Everyone has racist thoughts, and maybe even actions, from time to time, but only real racists hold strong racist thoughts and/or behave in a consistently racist manner.

Is it possible to be racist against your own race?
Yes.

Is your government, at times, racist?
My government helps fund an apartheid state engaged in genocide, engages in race based slavery, and has countless laws and policies designed to harm certain racial groups. I live in what is most likely the most racist first world nation besides Israel.

M3S1H
02-17-2011, 03:46 AM
1) When someone thinks: Race A > Race B (A = Any race. B = Any race besides Race A)

2) Yes. Wherever you go, there will be racist people.

3) Nope, but it is commonly seen around the world. We could live without it, but it just wanders the world.

4) Nope, William's Syndrome prevents racist thoughts by the subject with William's Syndrome.

5) Yes, I'm living proof of that.

6) Nope. Come to think of it, we never hear from the government over here...

Delphinus
02-17-2011, 04:58 AM
Racism will exist as long as there continues to be different ethnic groups. The only way to eliminate racism would be either to have full integration so there is no concept of a 'minority' or a 'majority' group... or to make everyone the same race. Genocide would be a valid (if violent) way to promote the latter option, but enough sexual mixing between different ethnic groups will lead to many people having a combination of racial traits - if this continues for long enough, it doesn't seem unlikely that most people in the world will be what we'd currently call 'mixed race'. The former option is probably impossible because of racism itself.
The reason I say racism is inevitable when there are ethnic minorities is because when people have little experience with other races, they'll base their perception of a particular race on a limited sample size - if all their encounters with other ethnic groups have been negative, then clearly they'll have a negative perception of that ethnic group. Racism can only be combatted through exposure to other ethnic groups from one's own.

Sylux
02-17-2011, 12:55 PM
I kinda live by what Delphinus is saying. I refuse to recognise people by their race, as I envision a world where someday we are all one interbred distinctively consistent human race, and act in a manner specific to my opinions on how the world should be.

GunZet
02-17-2011, 01:17 PM
Reminds me of that episode of South Park, where everyone was mixed up and vasically, one whole race.

Sylux
02-17-2011, 01:18 PM
oh yeah and they came thru time or some shit. hehe, SP was p funny back in the day...

PWhit
02-17-2011, 05:09 PM
I'm actually shocked this didn't get locked or something. :|

@Kodos:

When I say, is Racism a fact of life I am asking is Racism something that is unavoidable and/or needed in human existence. (I hope that was a little more clear.)

I should probably get rid of the second question that was vague as it means basically the same thing as the first one. That kind of makes things redundant and I'm glad you pointed it out.