The Musicians Thread: Only wonderwall covers from now on

[jubeh]

Wouldnt that be funny

[Hayashida]

Kind of but then you'd have wasted your money

[Hayashida]

http://soundcloud.com/hayashida/saturn-theme
made a quick theme song type thing. I can only dream to be as good as Keiichi Suzuki

[jubeh]

Cool

[Hayashida]

Thanks

[Hayashida]

http://soundcloud.com/hayashida/1958-1

Here's an old tune I recorded way back in 1958. It made it to #14 in France

[jubeh]

John the only comments that I could come up with sounded really mean in my head so I'll leave it at this.

http://media-cdn.pinterest.com/upload/3377768440401452_octjBNij_c.jpg

[Hayashida]

cool

[jubeh]

John unless I can find a better guitar for the money I think Im about to get a wildkat

[Hayashida]

It's a nice looking guitar. How much is it?

[jubeh]

300 bucks. Actually its not even available til march so idk anymore.

Edit: Ended up ordering a cheapo agile in the mean time.

[Hayashida]

what kind of agile did you get? and wtf where are you getting the money for these guitars

[jubeh]

The agile 2000 les paul copy. Money is from taxes.

[Hayashida]

oh cool. gonna shoot some holes through it?

[jubeh]

Thinking about it

[Hayashida]

Wicked

[Bacon_Barbarian]

I am teaching myself how to play the drums. Mainly through Rockband. Hopefully I'll get actual lessons soon. Anybody have any pointers?

[Evil_Cake]

hit em wit the sticks

[Bacon_Barbarian]

Why didn't I think of that. I've been using Maracas.

[Nyarlathotep]

@Bacon: My first suggestion would be to get a metronome and learn to play to a click - Rock Band will give you some experience with this, actually, so that's kind of nice.

On the web, there's about a million different options - http://www.metronomeonline.com/ is the first Google hit, but there's plenty more.

As far as actually playing goes, the key is to have a good grip and relax as much as possible.

[Hayashida]

erm made another really quick song
http://soundcloud.com/hayashida/tokyo-tower

[jubeh]

John your leads are too random

[Hayashida]

No way its called surrealism

[jubeh]

Its called adding random notes in the same key

[Hayashida]

yeah well thats cus I just make something up while recording

[jubeh]

WHAT THE

[butternut]

What did you make it on?

[Hayashida]

What did you make it on?

Garageband

[butternut]

okay thanks!

[jubeh]

John why does my cheapo les paul copy play better than my american made sg

[Bacon_Barbarian]

I think Tokyo Tower sounds nice.


As far as actually playing goes, the key is to have a good grip and relax as much as possible.

Do you play the drums?

[Nyarlathotep]

Yeah, four years now.

[jubeh]

Okay the guitar I got was p buzzy on the e string. After some adjustments it now only buzzes when I play an A on the e string.

But I mean why would I ever need that note I'll just never ever use it.

This is me right now

https://i.minus.com/i1ctUuYdrhyxC.gif

[Hayashida]

John why does my cheapo les paul copy play better than my american made sg

because fuck everything. fuck it.

[Nyarlathotep]

The Agile 2000 is actually a really nice guitar. Tsathoggua has a silverburst one that's stood up pretty well.

[jubeh]

Yeah aside from the buzziness its rad as hell for the price. Now Im trying to look at an amp.

[Hayashida]

I saw a really cheapo traynor amp at a music store around here for like 66 bucks. It's pretty basic tho

[jubeh]

Buy it for me and send it over

[Sylux]

No joke, I am most proud of this piece more than anything I've ever done in my life. Check it out seriously. Seriously. It's Fernando the Squidhunting Manwhore. Seriously. Check it out.

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/473963

[Hayashida]

Buy it for me and send it over

I've already got things I've got to send you once I get some more money

[jubeh]

I need to record something with this guitar. I thought my amp was awful but I think it was just the SG.

[Hayashida]

yeah you should do that and call it "Bring me dat booty"

[jubeh]

John dude the punch brothers do some fucking rad Radiohead covers.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKLHLFzbg48&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySFKHfpyfnQ&feature=related

I kind of want to learn some radiohead songs but I dont have the voice

[Hayashida]

hey thats pretty cool

[Sylux]

Yeah I have a horrible ego tbh

[Hayashida]

are you talking about that song you made cuz that is just weird dude

[Sylux]

No my ego as the lead singer of my band

[Hayashida]

yeah well that was a weird song anyway

[Sylux]

Thank you sir I aim to please

[Bacon_Barbarian]

Hehe. Sy. I know your name because of your band page. But now you also know mine ... Dilemma.

[jubeh]

Hey look up my band we're called skunkbutt city

[Hayashida]

that is the worst name James

[Sylux]

Wat

[Hayashida]

just made an ultra shitty song
http://soundcloud.com/hayashida/ulttraaa

edit: oh yeah I forgot to make it fade out or whatever at the end

[jubeh]

This is p cool

http://www.sembeo.com/media/Matrix.swf

[GunZet]

*drag mouse across board randomly* instant masterpiece.
That was indeed pretty awesome.

[Hayashida]

I have an app on my ipod which does the same thing. I wish there was a way to record it or something

[Sylux]

John you should get FL Studio Mobile

[Hayashida]

15 bucks dude? You can just get the garageband app for like 5 bucks

[Sylux]

Oh I jailbroke mine so it was free <_>

[Hayashida]

YOUUUUU STONE COLD CRIMINAAAAAL

edit: made a new song
http://soundcloud.com/hayashida/fuck
its weird

[jubeh]

Mars voltas new album is streaming on rollling stone

http://www1.rollingstone.com/hearitnow/player/marsvolta1.html

[Hayashida]

wicked dude

[jubeh]

Its actually p bad

[Hayashida]

I only had time to listen to the first song. whats wrong with the rest of it?

[jubeh]

It sounds like when you accidentally play two songs at the same time and its all jumbled

[Hayashida]

ooh that's unfortunate.

[jubeh]

John why do I like this song so much


http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=elyk9MBY72U

[Hayashida]

cuz its a decent song? idk dude

[jubeh]

John explain

[Hayashida]

You like it because it has a catchy melody

[jubeh]

oic but I hate catchy melodies

[Hayashida]

then why do u like this song

[jubeh]

I was asking you

[Evil_Cake]

did u suffer ear dmg recently

[jubeh]

Not that I know of doctor

[Evil_Cake]

ok just make sure u r getting enough magnesium

[Hayashida]

James u might be interested in this
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[jubeh]

Im thinking of doing a bunch of songs in the vain of this

http://yourlisten.com/channel/content/31340/Tap_my_feet

[Hayashida]

ok sounds cool dude

[Nyarlathotep]

Tsathoggua and I did another session of Rock School over the last few weeks... our show was on the 11th and the YouTube videos are finally up.

This is the last song we did: Mr. Crowley (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=023VNbdOOX0&list=UU5QPi5qJMt1eddfTceKpujA&index=15&feature=plcp)- the other 5 songs we played should show up on the bottom thingy, I think.

We managed to convince our mom to play the organ intro to the song, which sounded pretty badass :P

[jubeh]

Thats cool but you guys have like no energy. The dude in the red jacket looked like he was barely able to keep his balance or something.

Cool solo tho.

[Nyarlathotep]

Yeah, I know what you mean... Rob was doing decently, I think, but everyone else was pretty dead in the water. 'Red Shirt Guy' is the instructor for the program so he had a lot to do, I suppose.

[jubeh]

Yeah at least you werent exploring a backwater planet or he would have been fucked

[Hayashida]

made a new song
http://soundcloud.com/hayashida/sri-lanka

[jubeh]

John have you ever tried writing a song with a tracker like famitracker or something.

http://i.imgur.com/u2zFF.jpg

[Hayashida]

No I haven't found something like that for mac. If I did though I'd give it a try.

[jubeh]

I think milky tracker works on mac

http://milkytracker.org/

[Hayashida]

hmm I have no idea what im doing with this

[jubeh]

FIGURE IT OUT

[Hayashida]

how do you make music i dont get this

[jubeh]

how do you make music i dont get this

Open up one of the songs that comes with it. You have to make instruments and then you can record them in the actual tracker.

[Hayashida]

WHAT THE

[Hayashida]

i dont get this so i made this instead
http://soundcloud.com/hayashida/huh

[jubeh]

Thats cool but man if u want that authentic sound u gotta use a tracker

[Hayashida]

yeah I know. It seems like it'd take 4 hours to make a 30 second song though

[jubeh]

Yeah its awesome.

Btw can you make me something similar to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYfgpodCVHE

But obviously not exactly the same. Also using only 2 square wave tracks, one triangle, and one noise.

[Hayashida]

fuck that sounds so rockin' I dunno if I'm that good enough

[jubeh]

JUST DO IT

[Hayashida]

I just made an intro thing to see if you like it so far. I listen to the castlevania theme and then forget immediately how it went so I'm not sure if this is what you meant
http://soundcloud.com/hayashida/8bitwip

[jubeh]

Thats good it just needs a memorable melody

[Hayashida]

that will come later since that is just the intro

[jubeh]

Btw idk if you listen to podcasts but bryan lee omalley was on indoor kids

http://www.nerdist.com/2012/04/the-indoor-kids-39-the-indoor-kids-vs-bryan-lee-omalley-creator-of-scott-pilgrim/

[Hayashida]

Ya I listen to some podcasts sometimes. I'll check that out

[jubeh]

Have you worked on that song john

http://imgur.com/PscxS.jpg

[Hayashida]

yeah I'm still working on it. Trying to come up with a decent melody still

[jubeh]

Maybe this will inspire u


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjazC45Qkww

[Hayashida]

What is this for anyway

[jubeh]

Game

[Hayashida]

whats it about

[Hayashida]

http://soundcloud.com/hayashida/8bitthemewip

okay here's what I have so far. Uh I'm still trying to come up with a memorable melody to go over the "chorus-y" bit

[jubeh]

Sounds good

[Hayashida]

Bon Iver did this sweet cover of Ophelia by the Band in honour of Levon Helm who died the other day

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[Sylux]

Since apparently our shit is free now here's the playlist.

http://www.reverbnation.com/walkingthroughaminefield

[Hayashida]

cool

[AlmanacnamedTime]

hey yall know a good garageaband like thing that works for linux/windows?

[Sylux]

FL Studio 10 + VSTi

[jubeh]

John superbrothers: swords and sorcery comes out for mac p soon


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOOqdRsbHKA&feature=relmfu

You hear that shit.

You hear it.

[Hayashida]

o wat this is jim guthries stuff?

[Hayashida]

http://soundcloud.com/hayashida/rebelrebel

james if you can do anything with that then go for it

[jubeh]

John thats just the same thing over and over

[Hayashida]

well I recorded the one part like a year ago and I didnt want to go grab my guitar so yeah

[jubeh]

Man

[Hayashida]

its all the way upstairs man

[jubeh]

http://i.imgur.com/h3mBM.gif

[Hayashida]

is that how you would perform on stage?

[jubeh]

Ya

[Hayashida]

I can picture that in my mind

[jubeh]

Check this out john


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUcJRKVuPak

[Hayashida]

heh thats awesome

[Nyarlathotep]

Hey guys, Tsathoggua and I have started a band with another guy around here -- we recorded a rehearsal of one of our tracks and mastered it a bit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB8FX-FG4M0

No video -- we don't even have a logo finalized yet :P

Any feedback is appreciated - thanks!

[jubeh]

Guitar is seriously good. Not a fan of the singer but I can barely hear him on the track.

[Nyarlathotep]

Thanks man -- I've heard that from a few other people about the singer's volume... seems like I don't have a great ear for levels really :P

[Hayashida]

James the corrupt bargains havent had a song in a while, can you put some vocals to this or something?
http://soundcloud.com/hayashida/kids-these-days

[jubeh]

eh

[Hayashida]

can you like put something over that

[jubeh]

Its so boring tho its like the same thing over and over

[Hayashida]

most songs are like that without vocals

[jubeh]

Ughhhhhhhh

[Hayashida]

what kind of music do you want to do because i dont even know anymore

[jubeh]

You know man like bucha bow kow zoo waaaaa

[Hayashida]

i have no idea what you're talking about

[jubeh]

Ok I will do this song but the stuff I mostly listen to now is stuff like car sick car and the unicorns

[Hayashida]

okay i see i see. I had older arctic monkeys in my head while making that song so yeah.

[jubeh]

I just hate chord strumming in 4/4

[Hayashida]

well how am i supposed to know that eh

[jubeh]

I cant do it I tried but I cant

[Hayashida]

is something like this what you are talking about
http://soundcloud.com/hayashida/unicorn

[jubeh]

no

http://images.4chan.chan4chan.com/b/src/1337735226707.jpg

[Hayashida]

that sounds so much like the unicorns though

WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM MEEEE

[jubeh]

I just want something with one guitar -- drop all the layers of shit. One guitar at a time. No keyboard, or synth or anything like that. Do something cool with the guitar. Mess with effects. I want to hear something I haven't heard before. If it's 4/4 with bar chords Im gonna poop on it.

Music dump



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLINRoC4f1k&feature=bf_next&list=HL1337753432

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJZL17XdYXg&list=LLlJDhwyNSfVJi0qtTgioI3Q&feature=mh_lolz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7qJYG8b0U4&list=PLB056FC34EAB5D859&index=9&feature=plpp_video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q8vVOmqVz0&list=FLlJDhwyNSfVJi0qtTgioI3Q&index=2&feature=plpp_video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2Qc0O7c3yo&list=FLlJDhwyNSfVJi0qtTgioI3Q&index=23&feature=plpp_video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgAXZHMi_ws&list=FLlJDhwyNSfVJi0qtTgioI3Q&index=106&feature=plpp_video

[Hayashida]

nothing will ever compare to man-goat. i dont know why i even try

[jubeh]

When is the last time you wrote like a proper riff

[Hayashida]

i dunno. i come up with riffs all the time but i never record them because i am too lazy

[jubeh]

Write a noise rock riff do something like thurston moore

[Hayashida]

man i'll do it later i want to watch fawlty towers

[jubeh]

Good 2 c you are taking this extremely seriously

[jubeh]

John write something as good as this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfYzWITUMAs

[Hayashida]

man

[jubeh]

JUST DO IT

[Hayashida]

why dont you try

[jubeh]

ok

[Sylux]

am I a rap artist yet
http://soundcloud.com/sottaceti/ambient-type-rap-idea

[Hayashida]

apparently doc watson just died after abdominal surgery :(

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edit: Sylux you need to work on mastering and stuff cuz that song had a lot of clipping in it

[Hayashida]

hm some guy made Kid A and OK Computer in an 8-bit version. P cool.
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/lFUIeDjo2dA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/YxLnu4PhQNQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[jubeh]

John who would you say is ur favorite band

[Hayashida]

That's almost impossible for me to say

[jubeh]

CHOOSE

[Hayashida]

geez, well idk. whys this so important to you

[jubeh]

Aight since you didnt choose your favorite band is now the everly brothers

[Hayashida]

I don't even know who they are

[jubeh]

Thats weird since they're your favorite

[Hayashida]

Are they anything like kanye west

[jubeh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbU3zdAgiX8

[Hayashida]

I can't believe you're listening to the everly brothers when you can be listening to this
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/c49klxPex-k" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[jubeh]

Uh I listen to dion and the belmonts daily are you being for real

[Hayashida]

Dude what a few days ago I asked you if you knew who they were and you said you didn't know them

[jubeh]

lol

[Hayashida]

what even is this

[Delphinus]

Okay guys, learning guitar and I have a music theory question. How do the particular notes in, say, a G chord combine to make it a G rather than a G minor or E or whatever? The notes in your standard beginner G chord (the only one I know, lol) are G, B, D, G, B, G - why does that make a G?

Other chords confuse me even more. How do C, E, G, C, E make a C? How do E, C, E, A sharp, B, and E make an E chord, and why does it make E minor instead if the A sharp is substituted for G?

I suspect there's a simple answer, but I haven't been able to find one through quick googling.

[Hayashida]

The notes in a chord come from the scale of the note of the chord you're playing. Like a G chord comes from the notes of a G Major scale. A G minor chord comes from the G minor scale. The chords are based on the sound starting from the base note of the chord. If you start with a C note, the notes that follow after to make a C major chord are E and G. If you change the E to an E minor, it becomes a C minor chord because of the sound of it. Idk if that answers what you're asking.

[jubeh]

Um a chord is constructed of notes from the same scale and its different depending on the chord and scale.

A G major chord is G B D which is the first, third, and fifth notes of the g major scale right. The extra G B D you play are just the same notes in different octaves so they sound nice together.

So for C its the same situation.

For minor chords its actually based on the position of the note in the scale. Chords built starting on the first, fourth and fifth notes of the scale are always major. Chords built starting on the second, third and sixth notes of the scale are always minor.

Uh for E minor do you know about relative minors.

Edit: john u suck

[Hayashida]

y do i suck

[jubeh]

Its not called a base note its a root note if you say base it sounds like bass.

[Hayashida]

whatevah

[Delphinus]

Okay, I half understand your explanations but bear in mind I have as much music training as a small monkey. What exactly is a scale for a note and how do you go about working out which notes are in a scale for a particular root note? Or is it just memorisation?

EDIT: I mean I know a scale is just a collection of notes I'm not that terrible

[jubeh]

All chords are based on their major diatonic scale.

Edit: This guide is really good

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/lessons/chords/what_chords_are_in_what_key_and_why.html?no_takeov er

[Delphinus]

This is starting to make me think I should just get music theory for dummies or something

[jubeh]

Listen at ur level just find out what chords are in the key you are playing in and then go to town

[Delphinus]

Man I don't just want to learn the instrument I want to understand how it all fits together and why Stairway to Heaven sounds rad and some dude hitting a guitar with a rock sounds shit

Because really learning to play the guitar would be a matter of dexterity, muscle memory, and accumulating techniques, like any other instrument but music theory lets you compose and rework and all the really cool stuff

[jubeh]

Listen at ur level just find out what chords are in the key you are playing in and then go to town

[Delphinus]

ok i'll buy a music book

[Hayashida]

Eh how is it not obvious why Jimmy Page sounded good on guitar as opposed to someone launching a rock at a guitar

[Delphinus]

Okay Jubeh I realised why I was confused about intervals even though they're simple. I didn't know there wasn't a flat/sharp between E/F and B/C. Working out major and minor scales is actually easy from internet information I was just missing that vital piece of the puzzle

[Hayashida]

what an hilarious misunderstanding

[Delphinus]

Here we see self-teaching vs. professional teaching in microcosm

[Hayashida]

well I'm self taught

[Delphinus]

Also calculating scales is strangely fascinating idk why

[jubeh]

well I'm self taught

psh what does that even mean

[Hayashida]

psh what does that even mean

no one taught me how to play guitar

[Evil_Cake]

me 2

[Hayashida]

aren't you also a self taught snapple lid player

[Evil_Cake]

no i got lessons for those

[Hayashida]

oh geez

[Hayashida]

James I made a new song

http://soundcloud.com/hayashida/yellow

[jubeh]

Ok after listening to be my kettle I'm convinced the kettles are fucking amazing. This album is so good this band is so good what's going on here. The way their voices sound together is impossible like a one in a million match up.

[Hayashida]

yeah, it's a great album and they're too good. If I can find their second one I'll let you know.

[Hayashida]

here's what Ive got so far james, I need to redo some of the parts of it, but I think that's going to be it basically.
http://soundcloud.com/hayashida/puuchan
what do you think

[jubeh]

p much hate it

[Hayashida]

maaaan

[Delphinus]

that track is kinda dull john

[Evil_Cake]

would have been more enjoyable to put two butts against my head and listen 2 them

[jubeh]

John Im like in love with this song cant we do something like that with some pauses for vocals.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1st_9KudWB0

[Hayashida]

ok ill try to write something like that

[Delphinus]

Hey is having my 3rd or 1st finger on the 4th string better for playing A major? 1st is kinda easier but 3rd makes it easier to switch to E and Am.

Likewise for G - should I use my 3rd instead of 2nd finger on the 6th string? It makes that chord harder but switching chords easier.

[Hayashida]

For A it should be your third finger, and I use my third finger on the sixth string for an open G chord.

[jubeh]

Thats now noobs play a g

[Hayashida]

what

[jubeh]

James I made a new song

http://soundcloud.com/hayashida/yellow

Couldnt do anything with this after all couldnt find a melody that suited my voice

[Hayashida]

okay I'll keep working

[jubeh]

I can't sing over like the same note being repeated over and over again because my voice isn't really dynamic so more chord changes would help. Also generally faster stuff.

[Hayashida]

how many bpm approximately were you thinking of

[jubeh]

Idk but if its too slow I have to like actually sing you know what I mean

[Hayashida]

uh right

[jubeh]

ya if I have to sing then we have to write the song around my voice and thats a pain in da butt also singing sucks

[Hayashida]

I started working on a song a couple days ago idk if you'll like it but let me know if I should continue with this or if I should just try to come up with something new
http://soundcloud.com/hayashida/crazy-dog

[jubeh]

That sounds rad but yeah Idk what I can do with it

[Hayashida]

Ok well I'll try to work with it more and try to come up with something

[jubeh]

That sounds rad but yeah Idk what I can do with it

Changed my mind (http://soundcloud.com/jubeh/crazy-dog)

Guess we are the strokes now.

Also my mic quality is awful it sounds good in headphones tho.

[Hayashida]

Cool. I'll make the song longer so you can actually sing without having to battle the guitar

[Evil_Cake]

cool

[Outcast]

That's pretty cool, is there a way I can could get ahold of that.

[Hayashida]

Man its not even done yet

[Outcast]

I still like it regardless.

[jubeh]

John finish the song

[Hayashida]

Man I need to get new strings. My strings right now are so rusted I can't slide at all

[jubeh]

I didn't ask for your life story

[Hayashida]

Listen I'll try to pick up some new strings sometime this week

[jubeh]

I didn't ask for your future story

[Hayashida]

I'm just sitting in front of the computer right now so I can't go now

[jubeh]

Yeah u seem busy

[Hayashida]

I was just giving you an opportunity to say that you didn't ask for my present story

[jubeh]

I was using the opportunity to give you shit for doing nothing ever

[Hayashida]

I do things sometimes and anyway that's none of your concern

[jubeh]

Just what is going on over there

[Hayashida]

just stuff okay

[jubeh]

John can we do a song like this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZUvgEU-BFw&feature=related

Also I had never watched moo-cow lulu gabin live. It turns out their frontman is the drummer.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoKeh80oH3Y&feature=relmfu

[jubeh]

I've convinced myself this song is better than it actually is. I tried to a write a song that my younger self would have written and I also wanted to experiment with falsetto since I used to be not able to sing loudly in it but now I can somehow. Turn your volume up the quality is shit.

http://soundcloud.com/jubeh/ohwell

[Hayashida]

I like that song. It's good. Also, okay, lets do a song like that one. And I can't figure out what to do with crazy dog. I don't know where to go from the one part, you know?

[jubeh]

Well FIGURE IT OUT