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Nonserial
08-22-2012, 04:16 AM
Hey Ppl from MT.

I'm here now fpr some Days and i have to say: "I like it here xD" :cat_thumbsup:

I really don't know if i can stand too harsch crit's, but i think i'll give it a try.
Please keep in Mind, i just started to draw Stuff. ^_^

So i hope that with your Help and maybe a little Guidance im going to become better, maybe even good :D
Cause i saw many Lineart, Characters and Pictures as i went through the Forums. And i have to say
that my first impression on most of em were :cat_shiney: :cat_whyyou: :cat_shiney:
:)

I started by lokking for a nice Picture on the Internet i could try to "redraw" freehand and this is the First Picture im
going to Post in here but im going to Post more. xD
I also just finished my first Anime-like Head WITHOUT Helplines or the Complete Circle (I bet most of you know what i mean by that) xD

So, heeeere Comes my first "redraw" (Who can recognize who's it going to be? ^_^)

http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w463/Nonserial88/20082012005.jpg

And a little Closer:

http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w463/Nonserial88/20082012006.jpg


Pictures taken by Mobile and put on Comp by Bluetooth (I hope thats okay ;) )
Later i'll start Coloring and rebuilding em in CG, but first, i wanna learn moar xD

Sooooo, lemme hear what you gotta say :) (but please be gentle xD) :cat_thumbsup:

Greetz

Nonsi

trilokcool3
08-22-2012, 04:45 AM
Nice ! Is he kakashi ?
Nvm
well you have the general idea of drawing things. In this picture i think right eye (his left) is a bit big then the other.
Looking for more especially those anatomy part , proportions etc. Hoping you post more.
Advice
if you are new then never hesitate to follow references.
Thats it.

JJJorgie
08-22-2012, 07:24 AM
Besides, what TLK3 said, I have a few critiques.

Both sides of his face are different shapes. The face isn't in line with the chin. The eyebrows are different lengths. The ears should be a little lower.

Keep up the good work. :)

Nonserial
08-22-2012, 07:51 AM
Thanks for the Crit's so far *Burn in Brain* :D

And here is my next Char i Freedrawed from Pic on the Monitor (it's more of an Interpretation :P )
btw. Dont mind the tableclothing xDD (Not Mine :) )

http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w463/Nonserial88/22082012004.jpg

I think i will take those 2 for the time being as my "ExperimentalChars" one Male and one Female so i can work on both to get the Proportion etc. fixed xD

I think this is a good Training to get a hold of things in face :)

JJJorgie
08-22-2012, 07:55 AM
Mostly similar problems you had with the first picture: eye lengths aren't the same, the sides of the face are different shapes.

Also, the mouth is a little low and the nose is just.... weird. That line shouldn't be that crooked.

Keep up the good work!

Nonserial
08-22-2012, 08:04 AM
Thanks for the Info Jorgie.

Just to be sure do you mean this line? And what to do? Make it more straight?

http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w463/Nonserial88/hinata_nose_question.jpg

JJJorgie
08-22-2012, 08:15 AM
Yes that, and the shadow. Just round them both into one single, curved line. (thicker aand lighter at the top because the top's a shadow, of course)

Nonserial
08-22-2012, 08:32 AM
Okay thanks,

i think i got what you wanna say :) . A little Problem here is that i only got a pencil and no eraser or anything likely, so i have to do it all over again xD

So, the "Update" of Hinata may take some time :)
as the one of Kakashi ofc :D

Nonserial
08-22-2012, 10:23 AM
So, here is the "first" re-worked version of Hinata (I kinda like drawing her more atm :D )

http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w463/Nonserial88/22082012005.jpg

I made her a little smaller, to get a better overall view about placing and distances etc. I know i screwed the Eyes in this one Big Time *ashamed* and im not too happy with the "Noseline" and the Shadow coming from the Brow.
I also replaced the Mouth (a little higher) and the Nose is exactly centered now (i found a ruler :D).
And i added in a little Blush, i thought that might give her a little innocent/shy look :)

http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w463/Nonserial88/22082012006.jpg

Here is a picture how small i made this one, i drew below the First one, and only half the size. Just to show you ;)

I hope to get more useful tips here. :)
Greetz and of course THANKS

Nonsi :)

Demonfyre
08-22-2012, 11:20 AM
I think the left eye is slightly smaller lengthwise than the right on your redrawing, also the eyebrows are very different width wise. Other than that your redrawing is looking much better :)

Shadowsfade
08-23-2012, 07:50 AM
on your last pic, the redraw, the eyes are too far apart - there should be a distance of one eye's length between the two eyes, yours has a gap of nearly two. Also, it looks odd having a line right in the middle of the nose between the nostrils, as it's not really connected to anything. It would be better to either just indicate the nostrils, or do most of the outline of the nose, connecting it to the eyebrows. Finally, the shadow connecting the line of the nose to the eyebrow doesnt seem natural at all, there isnt anything that should be casting that sort of shape, normally the shadow would follow one edge of the nose (as it sticks out of the face, if a light source is coming from one side, this casts a shadow on the opposite side)

However, I like the way you draw eyes and hair, and it's good to see you redrawing to take on critiques!

Nonserial
08-26-2012, 06:28 PM
Heey Fellas,

i took a little break from training LineArt's and tried to do some Colouring. I'm sure there are several things that be better in those
so i decided to also put em in here so all the colouring ppl can gimme some Hints&Tricks what to do better in terms of colouring
and Shading.
So the Pictures im posting are not my own LineArt's i just did the Colouring.

1. LineArt done by JJJorgie:
http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w463/Nonserial88/Linearts_Colorisations/JJJorgie_colored__Shadows_highlights2.jpg

2. LineArt done by Cloudy:
http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w463/Nonserial88/Linearts_Colorisations/Pixxie_by_Cloudy_colored.jpg

3. LineArt done by Gedeon:
http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w463/Nonserial88/Linearts_Colorisations/LetishaLineart_by_Gedeon-1.jpg

4. LineArt done by TheAlmanac:
http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w463/Nonserial88/Linearts_Colorisations/chibi_with_fire_by_thealmanac.jpg

JJJorgie
08-26-2012, 07:29 PM
I'm noticing a repeated problem throughout all of these, but especially in the first: You don't have a set light source. Because you don't have one, there are all these random highlights. Also, make sure you make the whites of the eyes white, not skin color, because 1) it's natural and 2) It will help make the eye stand out.

Demonfyre
08-26-2012, 07:37 PM
I believe you are doing something known as pillow shading, which is described as;


Pillow shading is shading by surrounding a central area with increasingly darker bands. Pillow-shading is bad because it pays no attention to the light source, and conforms to the shape of the area rather than the form it represents of how light affects it. Pillow shading is often, but not always, combined with banding. The way to fix pillow-shading is simply to pay attention to the direction light is coming from:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/phototekcub/pillowshaderedux.png
The reason pillow-shading is wrong is not because the light source is frontal (from the viewer's direction). You don't have to place the light source in the corner. The reason pillow-shading is incorrect is because it follows flat shapes rather than focuses on how the three-dimensional forms are lit.
So, it is possible to use a frontal light source, so long as you pay attention to the forms:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/phototekcub/frontalpillow.png

Also I would like to point out that you are going from light on the edges to dark on the inside, which ok with back lighting as the object in question is silhouetted but I would suggest keeping the edges shaded rather than highlighted and then having the light striking the center, examples can also be seen in the quote.

Other than that they look good :) I like the colour's you chose :)

Nonserial
08-26-2012, 08:13 PM
Thank You both Jorgie&Demon for the Input.

I think im going to redo some of the Pics tomorrow (Or today after some sleep :) )
I'll try to keep in Mind what you both mentioned about the Shadings and the Highlights.

Especially thanks Demon for the really nice Information about Pillow-Shading. Didnt even knew this. But after i read it i have
to admit that this is exactly whats always kinda disturbing myself looking at the pics. :)

I hope to be able to post some updated/redone Versions tomorrow xD

Greetz

Nonsi

Nonserial
08-27-2012, 06:28 AM
Okay,

this Time i'd like to get Crit's for 2 Things i've done.

1) I found a nice Tutorial on making own LineArt's without GraphicTablet and tried it with my Hinata,
and i tried to keep in Mind what you told me about Positioning and Proportions :)

2) Colouring, i tried to take (in Mind) a Fixed Lightsource from where the Light should be coming
and added Highlights and Shadows acording to this (i hope so ;) )

http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w463/Nonserial88/Linearts_Colorisations/Hinata_LineArt_Colored.jpg

So pls gimme Input, i still wanna get better :D

Greetz

Nonsi

JJJorgie
08-27-2012, 07:38 AM
There is too much gray in the whites of the eyes. The whole loaks like it's gel-like. A face shouldn't have those highlights. The bridge of the nose looks really strange; it's too far from the eyes (due to the eyebrows being so long) and then it just ends for no reason. The lines of the hair are all pretty straight. When you're doing this kind of shading, the hair highlights are generally almost in a horizontal line.

Did you even use a reference? If not, make a habit to. Reference will really help you learn where to place shadows and highlights. Here's one I found on Google:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090703054425/naruto/images/9/9a/Hinata.jpg

Nonserial
08-28-2012, 03:50 AM
Hey Ppl,

i managed to finish my First completely selfmade LineArt on the Computer (Only using Mouse and PTS :) )
I tried to keep Track of everything you all said already bout proportions, distances etc.

So pls gimme something to work with. :D

http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w463/Nonserial88/Linearts_Colorisations/First_LineArt.jpg

I know the Mouth looks a little Odd, had no idea so far how to add in Toothlines or something xD

Greetz

Nonsi

trilokcool3
08-28-2012, 06:16 AM
Ok i will just give you a light comment to make it better .
Since you used a computer so its editable .
1. Length of mouth erase half of it .
2. Eyes well make it a bit small.
3. Eyebrows don't make it so bold . Just give a simple curve line. Also decrease the length a bit .
4. Add half more hairs in head .
I think these changes will look a bit better.
Take your time and apply these.
Advice:-
use references
fanarts.
Wait for others for heavy tips. Thats all.
:)

AlmanacnamedTime
08-28-2012, 09:06 AM
Since you colored my pictue you get a hint:
Shoulders slope downward.

ALso a recommendation to learn to draw, Andrew Loomis' books are free online, just use google.