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jaidurn
08-08-2012, 08:00 PM
So guys, I'm one of those people who totally believes in the paranormal.

Lately at work I've been feeling like there is something watching me and if I walk into a darker area then I start feeling like something wants to injure me. There are certain areas where I do not clean because the closer I get the more I feel like I'll get hurt if I go there. Recently I came across a door labeled "Ghost Town" probably as a joke to scare workers.

I decided to ask my boss about it. She said that that part of the building had housed homeless people for a few years and that when employees tried to clean it they would start hearing noises. Of course my boss would've made up a good story if she was in on the joke.

One of my friends worked this job and he quit recently because of these feelings. He didn't tell me about this until now, which makes me wonder more about if he was just trying to find someone willing to take the job so he could quit. I got this job thinking, "Oh, hey it's money right?" Now, I know why they were so desperate to fill the position that they streamlined me through the process.

I don't know if I should continue working or what.

Have you guys ever had experiences like this?

Do you even believe in the paranormal?

TheVermillionFox
08-08-2012, 08:08 PM
Ooh this is right up my alley.

Okay, so where exactly do you work and what is your occupation?

I took a camera to the Yorktown Battlefield one time and put it up in the grave yard. The lense was facing toward the forest, and I left it there for a while. When I came back and looked at the film, I was surprised to see two white dots drifting in and out of the woods. We were the only ones there at the time and none of was we're wearing white clothing. They vanished after a while.

My mom thinks my house is haunted, the only experiences I've had is my older brother's bedroom door slamming shut and our dog repeatedly staring up at the stairs. My mom said that one time age found the cap to a gasoline can in the garage (which is under my brother's bedroom) fly the way across the floor

I would have posted the other video, but I broke my camera *facepalm* and the computer I saved it one crashed. Man, that would have hit it on YouTube.

More experiences please :3

AlmanacnamedTime
08-08-2012, 08:17 PM
I know someone who can talk to ghosts and see th aura of people around them. He can also tell if their trustworthy, and copy peoples states of mind and then their abitlities that they use at the time.

So totally does the paranormal exist.

jubeh
08-08-2012, 08:37 PM
I don't believe in ghosts because Im like a grown man or whatever but I wrote a comic about a suicidal chinese guy that punches ghosts if only cake would draw it like he said he would.

I also like walking around in abandoned buildings but they take that extremely seriously around here and will arrest you.

Evil_Cake
08-08-2012, 08:48 PM
I don't believe in ghosts because Im like a grown man or whatever but I wrote a comic about a suicidal chinese guy that punches ghosts if only cake would draw it like he said he would.

What the
Now u r just making stuff up kinda like Sasquatch

toast
08-08-2012, 08:55 PM
I think it's really all in our head. Like we always like to think of the craziest explanations for simple shit, like the white dots floating out of the forest. That seriously could have been a fly, some fuzz, a flower, one of those fuzzy things that float around and stick on your clothes, etc. Like MILLIONS of normal explanations, but we like to say its a ghost because it's more exciting. Or feelings of being watched. After reading a shit load of creepypastas, I make myself feel like I'm being watched due to paranoia. It's normal.

But to contribute to this thread with a story, the most paranormal thing that happened to me was like, okay my mom bought some spaghetti and she put it in the pantry. Later that day she goes to the pantry to get the spaghetti so she can boil it and its NOT THAR. Then later she goes back and it's right there! OH MAN

TheVermillionFox
08-08-2012, 09:04 PM
Actually, I could tell if it was a fly. The dots were blurred, moved in a slight bobbing motion and vanished IN the camera shot. I have no idea how to classify that.

Psy
08-08-2012, 09:42 PM
I declare this a PSY THREAD.

Been thru this before so I will keep it short but yes I am a believer. I do tarot card readings, palm readings, im clairaudient, clairsentient, empathic.
When I was little I wouldn't sleep in my room sometimes because there was a man that would sit on my tv with a cowboy hat on (Mexican guy) and I would make my mom tell him to leave. It had to be my mom to tell him because she was the only other one that could talk to him. I didn't know that until I was like 12 when I told my parents there was a guy sitting on my dresser with bluejeans a wife beater shirt shaved head and a gunshot wound with a bunch of blood in his upper left portion of his chest. He was crying and looking at me and reaching out for me with his right arm. I looked away and then back and he's still there I reach for a flash light under my bed and shine it at him and he's gone.

Going to new places is overwhelming for me because I can feel the lingering emotions from people that are or we're there. I have this weird calming effect on people but I become really irritable and depressed if I'm not careful.

If you are feeling any kind of ill will you should look into learning about the chakras. They can pretty much be thought of as meditation techniques. What you want to do is learn to turn them on or off and produce more of one of your own energies to combat the ones around you. You can say a prayer to keep you safe to if you feel like it. Sometimes it could very well be in our heads but saying a prayer or such can't really hurt right?

TheVermillionFox
08-08-2012, 09:48 PM
DANGIT MAN, I SHOULD'VE CALLED IT!

Being a clairvoyant can have its pros and cons, enjoy your life, bro.

Hayashida
08-08-2012, 10:20 PM
I am a man of science. p much everything I've thought was freaky and could be a ghost or something I've found out was something totally explainable. I wish ghosts and stuff were real though cuz that would be rad as hell

ClockHand
08-09-2012, 03:53 AM
I'm a man of science.

http://comicgeekos.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/ghostbusters-music-video.gif

Demonfyre
08-09-2012, 06:31 AM
I am a man of science. p much everything I've thought was freaky and could be a ghost or something I've found out was something totally explainable. I wish ghosts and stuff were real though cuz that would be rad as hell

This

Outcast
08-09-2012, 02:13 PM
I would have posted the other video, but I broke my camera *facepalm* and the computer I saved it one crashed. Man, that would have hit it on YouTube.

Oh really now? And I saw jesus have gay butt sex with stalin but I had nothing to record it with.



Any I'm not entirely convinced it's false or that it's real, I think all "paranormal" have something to do with people's heads.

Black_Shaggie
08-10-2012, 05:00 PM
This

I also concur.

Science can debunk a lot of things. The paranormal being one. I've a theory about energy in general that could explain away a lot of what we call the paranormal. I think, since energy permeates almost everything that & their so many different kinds of energy, oftentimes people may confuse the effects of energy on their minds as bearing witness to the paranormal.

Latent psychic energy of an incredibly 'magnetic' or willful person can easily be confused for a ghost.

Plus people wanna believe so they'll spend any weirdo account way the fuck out of proportion...I've even done it. Now if you wanna really focus on the paranormal or supernatural...examine the details of your dreams more closely.

Fenn
08-13-2012, 12:50 AM
I don't believe in the physical existance of paranormal beings, but if someone convinces themselves something is real, or their brain tells them they saw it due to a condition, and they act on that belief, then that apparition is as good as real to that person. Heck, people can disprove the existence of the Christian God, but the mere idea of God has caused multiple wars, thousands of deaths, and many charitable acts, as well as the creation of architecture, literature, and musical compositions. Not bad for something that doesn't exist. Also, willing suspension of disbelief can be quite enjoyable and entertaining when there are no serious consequences for believing one way or the other.

I actually do believe in magic, however. We all have little moments of magic sprinkled within our lives. When you look an an image and know that even though you can describe it, you will never be able to describe precisely how it made you feel to anyone else, that image contains magic. When you recognize and accept that the sequence of events that has unfolded was, in the end, due to chance, yet your gut still tells you it that everything fell into (or out of) place for a predetermined reason, you've experienced magic.

JJJorgie
08-13-2012, 01:27 AM
There are a lot of weird going-ons that happen, but I do think it's more paranoia than actual "ghosts". Yeah, I have yet to see actual video footage that can't be explained by science, cool machinery, or tricks of the eye. All those ghost catcher shows can be easily planned out and edited; it's not like they're broadcasted live. It's easy to hallucinate sounds, images, and feelings (of being watched) when you're scared or extremely tired.

whenrabbitsattack2.0
08-13-2012, 01:49 AM
i'm kinda on the fence about this one.
one of the reasons i think people believe in spirits is so they can believe that death isn't the end.thinking that death won't be the end of there exsistence is simultaneously comforting and frightening.
if our conciousness does exsist after death, there would have to be a reasons for it. for most people there isn't one, but a particulatly strong emotion in the dying person could cause their conciousness to exist as an emotional energy manifestation of that person. i don't believ in apparartions and stuff though. and the spirts that do exist, i don't think they're vengeful. just sad.

Kodos
08-13-2012, 08:20 AM
Our consciousness cannot persist after death and it is absurd to assume otherwise. When you destroy a computer, are the programs on it still running?

Our body in general and our brain in particular is the hardware on which our minds run. When our hardware has ceased to function in any way, shape, or form, what reason is there assume that the software continues to run?

Black_Shaggie
08-14-2012, 09:18 AM
I actually do believe in magic, however. We all have little moments of magic sprinkled within our lives. When you look an an image and know that even though you can describe it, you will never be able to describe precisely how it made you feel to anyone else, that image contains magic. When you recognize and accept that the sequence of events that has unfolded was, in the end, due to chance, yet your gut still tells you it that everything fell into (or out of) place for a predetermined reason, you've experienced magic.

I disagree here. Magic is merely science shrouded in mystery & eventually can be explained as such [science]. As some folks here know, I practice taiji chain & qi gong. Both the martial art & the mediation cultivates a practitioner's sensitivity to cultivate & channel chi. Simply defined, chi is merely the electro-magnetic field that's generated by the earth & our bodies. With practice, one can learn to manipulate their own chi as well as the earth's to accomplish some pretty amazing feats---and not just physical stuff. Mental & emotional effects as well.

The concept of the seeing things that you cannot explain as being magical is, and excuse me for my bluntness here, is a primitive & illogical way of thinking imo. Also, what you describe as chance being magic is just the randomness of chance itself.

Fenn
08-14-2012, 07:43 PM
I disagree here. Magic is merely science shrouded in mystery & eventually can be explained as such [science]. As some folks here know, I practice taiji chain & qi gong. Both the martial art & the mediation cultivates a practitioner's sensitivity to cultivate & channel chi. Simply defined, chi is merely the electro-magnetic field that's generated by the earth & our bodies. With practice, one can learn to manipulate their own chi as well as the earth's to accomplish some pretty amazing feats---and not just physical stuff. Mental & emotional effects as well.

The concept of the seeing things that you cannot explain as being magical is, and excuse me for my bluntness here, is a primitive & illogical way of thinking imo. Also, what you describe as chance being magic is just the randomness of chance itself.

I knew I should have watched out when I said "actually." I was really suggesting magic as a feeling or emotion rather that something that exists physically which, givin the context of this thread, is very misleading. That being said, I did specifically state I wasn't referring to things I can't explain; rather, I was referring to the gut reactions to wonder and chance that, somehow, remain in certain people even after they've experienced, understood, and accepted the rational, scientific explanation.

It's similar to the discussion on sea monsters we had. Just because we can explain and classify a giant squid, does it really make it any less monstrous? Just because we can explain chi with science, make the fact that it works any less impressive or magical?

Kodos
08-15-2012, 02:45 PM
We can't explain chi with science because chi doesn't exist.

And, yes, being able to explain things does make them less magical.Not magical in the sense of wonder and awe, but by definition magic implies something that is unknown and unknowable. Look up the literal definitions of the words 'occult' and 'arcane'. Also look up Clarke's law.

Magic implies something apart from science which cannot be explained, at least not entirely. Many people have enough trouble understanding science as it is without people comparing it to magic.

Black_Shaggie
08-15-2012, 03:04 PM
Chi most certainly does exist and it has been scientifically explained. It's merely a body's electromagnetic energy.

http://taijiyang.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/a-modern-definition-of-qi/

That's just one source of many on the subject. Actually, the whole ideal of chi is nothing but science.
I do agree with you that once something is scientifically explained takes the 'magic' (& mystery) out of it.

Kodos
08-15-2012, 06:21 PM
You're going to have to give me a better source than that. Especially since it refers to 'Western science.'

There is no 'Western' science, there is no 'Eastern' science. There is only and always, science. That's the thing about the truth - it is universal. A fact is a fact anywhere and anywhen.

Also while the body is constantly under various electromagnetic fields, most of the EM fields we encounter in our daily lives are not strong enough to impact our body one way or another. Although it does remind me of an amusing story from the 90s, or maybe the 80s, of when a weather balloon hit some power lines near a town and set off an EMP and gave everyone really bad headaches.

Also another of the many plotholes in the Matrix - any EMP capable of frying an advanced hardened computer is more than capable of frying the human brain.

Black_Shaggie
08-16-2012, 09:21 AM
Okay:

http://www.thebuddhagarden.com/blog/chi-energy-breathing/

http://thestar.com.my/health/story.asp?file=/2006/5/21/health/14296936&sec=health

http://naturalbiorhythms.blogspot.com/2008/07/biorhythmic-energy-management.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F3ovb2kZ9Q

Of course there's no division of science. You're focusing on semantics.The author was obviously using that term to refer to a theory & technique that was derived in eastern cultures opposed to one originating from the western cultures.

And yes, the human body is constantly in effect with EM fields as well as many other types of energy. While most of this energy is ambient, a person can learn ways to cultivate their own bioelectrical field, or biorhythmic energy management (<---this is what people are talking about when they refer to chi, qi, ki, etc..) & manipulate it for various effects.

Sure an EMP can fry a person's brain but that's not EM energy that I'm referring to. But that's like saying if you sit to close to your TV you'll go blind. A body's bio rhythmic energy isn't a pulse. It permeates the body subtly & naturally like the ambient energies we interact with every day. With practice in the right disciplines a person can learn to manipulate this energy as I mentioned above.

Perhaps scientist who have not researched the phenomena thoroughly can't acknowledge this because they can't prove it through conventional scientific means. But just because certain members of the scientific community don't acknowledge something doesn't automatically debunk a theory. Energy in and of itself is weird & has not been fully understood scientifically but we do know that chi does indeed exist even if we're not aware of all of its [energy] properties.

I'm just saying that chi is another form of energy & although it's been identified as bioelectrical or biorhythmic, science his yet begun to fully understand all it's properties. Even if we don't fully understand it, doesn't mean it can't exist.