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jubeh
07-06-2012, 01:20 AM
Roughly 600 years ago I posted up this game called Elona because it was just so ridiculous and funny that I wanted to share it with you all and the game is now back as ElonaPlus which adds new features and fixes a lot of bugs.

If you didn't play before Elona is a roguelike known for being kind of insane. If you're thinking well hey aren't all roguelikes insane then you will probably enjoy this game. You'll get killed for playing music badly, have children, go on quests with little girls, and generally not know what you're doing ever.

And here is an anecdote from the PA forums from ages ago that shows the mood of the game:


I was doing seriously awesome - had a blessed machine gun with glass bullets, doing stupid damage (like 10d3 + 6d2 with a +25 to hit), and was lucky enough to have that mysterious douche in the first town die (the one with no name). So there I was, with my 2d18 sword, my +20 armor, and my machine gun, chewing up everything in the puppy dungeon like there's no tomorrow. Suddenly, I make a learning check and realize the sword I'm carrying is Ragnarok, and the words "Let's RAGNAROK!" show up on the screen, followed by every available square being filled with angry dragons.


What the fuck, game. What the fuck.

You can download the game here (http://www1.axfc.net/uploader/C/so/C_169161.zip). (Don't translate the page to english or the button vanishes for some reason.

And there is a helpful wiki here (http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Elona_Wiki).

Screenshots:

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/HeliosDenton/Snap13359.jpg
http://homepage3.nifty.com/rfish/image/elona_ss15b.jpg
http://images.wikia.com/elona/images/2/2d/BookofRachelScreenShot.jpg


So maybe lets all play this and talk about it?

CypressDahlia
07-06-2012, 02:29 AM
I remember trying this and being blown away by how needlessly complex it was.

jubeh
07-06-2012, 02:31 AM
Yeah its great

GunZet
07-06-2012, 02:40 AM
I think Del showed me this once.
Apparently there's some weird shit that can happen in this.

Outcast
07-06-2012, 02:55 AM
Kill shit, steal shit, nuke shit, make demon lords puke to death...shit.

Delphinus
07-06-2012, 01:25 PM
this game is totally fucked up

play the piano in the first town I dare you

jaidurn
07-06-2012, 01:52 PM
This game looks so great.

AlmanacnamedTime
07-06-2012, 02:00 PM
The first one was hilariously bad, I'm getting this one.

Evil_Cake
07-06-2012, 02:54 PM
Unequaled Good Man and his faithful dog got killed by bandits T_T

jubeh
07-06-2012, 04:02 PM
Unrivaled Rose is mutating because I drank some well water and now she has animal ears and thin arms

Evil_Cake
07-06-2012, 04:10 PM
gross dude

jubeh
07-06-2012, 04:18 PM
I sent my pet girl into the arena by herself to fight five enemies and she crushed them all

Edit: Whelp drank some well water and now Im pregnant

Evil_Cake
07-06-2012, 05:46 PM
slut

Regantor
07-06-2012, 07:47 PM
Last time I played the original, Mr."Beast Unit" got drunk and accidentally slept with a passing vagrant in the street, then ended up stuck in an unescapable parallel dimension filled with evil chanting neko girls who spoke in squiggles and could one-hit kill you.

I mean, look at that sentence! Elona is goodness.

Edit; ...The controls are still apparently insanely awkward, through. -_-

Matt
07-06-2012, 10:07 PM
This is my favorite RPG now.

In my first random battle, my dog--my lifetime companion--was killed by a traveling performer and I felt sad for a moment. Then I tried to run and was killed by a monster with no hands who wielded a mace.

The controls look like something a friend of mine who absolutely loves hotkey-based RPGs would make.

AlmanacnamedTime
07-07-2012, 02:47 PM
I just killed everyone in every town. Including my own pet little girl.

jubeh
07-07-2012, 03:59 PM
You can revive your pets at the bartender for some money.

AlmanacnamedTime
07-07-2012, 05:17 PM
Not if he's dead.

jubeh
07-07-2012, 05:24 PM
Go 2 another town

Matt
07-07-2012, 05:30 PM
I encountered the etherwind for the first time. I hid out in my house and kept resting to wait it out. A day later, the stuff hadn't cleared and I was out of food and starving I took a trip to town and, sure enough, got the disease. You'd think cures would be more readily available in a world where this happens a lot.

AlmanacnamedTime
07-07-2012, 05:42 PM
This is why only one healer should live, in every town. Everyone else dies.

jubeh
07-08-2012, 08:37 PM
Do you guys know if theres a way to store money

Evil_Cake
07-08-2012, 09:33 PM
drew me best character

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5058/lonesomemachine.jpg

jubeh
07-09-2012, 12:19 AM
Cool drawing man.

Also changed this thread into a general rougelike thread as I believe ADOM is back in development and some of the last 7drl entries were p rad.

Hamachi
07-09-2012, 06:54 AM
ooh I love roguelikes!

Delphinus
07-09-2012, 08:45 AM
My favourite roguelikes are:
1) Roguelike Stone Soup
2) Binding of Isaac
3) Dungeons of Dredmor

Regantor
07-09-2012, 11:18 AM
Baroque on the Saturn is still my favorite rogue. Does LSD on the PS1 count, too? I'd like to say Dwarf Fortress, but really I spend more time modding that game than I do actually playing it.

Anyway. Elona. Whenever I play as the predator class, I can never seem to get people to sell me ammo for ranged weapons... Is that a glitch or just part of the class? Anybody else get this with other characters?...

jubeh
07-09-2012, 01:39 PM
Anyway. Elona. Whenever I play as the predator class, I can never seem to get people to sell me ammo for ranged weapons... Is that a glitch or just part of the class? Anybody else get this with other characters?...

You need to invest in shops so they'll start selling you better stuff.

Delphinus
07-09-2012, 04:54 PM
Christ this game really is Dwarf Fortress as roguelike, isn't it?

Hamachi
07-09-2012, 07:53 PM
I've played Stone Soup. I like the arena thing where you can set creatures to duke it out against each other.

jubeh
07-09-2012, 07:57 PM
DCSS is my favorite rougelike probably. I was just playing earlier and got my first artifact weapon ever and then almost immediately died.

ClockHand
07-09-2012, 08:15 PM
How can I improve the equip weight? I did a pianist fairy and she can't hold any weapon for the moment =/

Delphinus
07-09-2012, 08:25 PM
Drop the piano in your apartment; when you level up pump points into carry capacity

For 'apartment' read cave

ClockHand
07-09-2012, 08:33 PM
ic... okay, gonna drop the piano there. Still I don't know how to gave point to carry capacity =/.

jubeh
07-09-2012, 09:40 PM
Uh you don't put points into anything per se. Your skill train as they're used though you can pay platinum coins at the trainer to improve their "potential" which is the actual chance they will improve.

Simply put to improve your carrying capacity you just need to carry a lot of shit. Assuming you started as a pianist your best way to get started is to go to the pub and buy some goods from the trader and just sell those goods at different pubs assuming you make a profit. Before you realize it your carrying capacity will go way up.

Watch out for bandits tho.

ClockHand
07-09-2012, 09:56 PM
But would I increase my equip weight capacity? Because at the moment is just of 1,9

jubeh
07-09-2012, 09:58 PM
Um you shouldnt have a max equip rate unless you chose like fairy or I dont understand what you're saying

ClockHand
07-09-2012, 10:00 PM
I did chose fairy.

jubeh
07-09-2012, 10:33 PM
-_-

Then you are fucked they can't equip a lot of stuff

ClockHand
07-09-2012, 11:58 PM
Why do I get teleported to different places?

Evil_Cake
07-09-2012, 11:59 PM
u might be diseased.. look at ur feats

jubeh
07-10-2012, 12:16 AM
Also check if any of your equipment is cursed

ClockHand
07-10-2012, 01:10 AM
Ya cursed item.

jubeh
07-10-2012, 01:33 AM
You need a scroll of uncurse or to talk to the person in the magic shop.

Also I urge you guys to try out Infra Arcana (http://infraarcana.wikispaces.com/). It's a lovecraftian roguelike.

ClockHand
07-10-2012, 02:46 AM
Man everything is so expensive, and loot have no value to shopkeepers.

jubeh
07-10-2012, 03:13 AM
You need to buy and sell cargo from the trader in the pubs.

Outcast
07-10-2012, 05:21 AM
Man everything is so expensive, and loot have no value to shopkeepers.

Needs to be identified. Also there is a skill you can get taught in yowen? that can help with you identifying an item on your own.

Delphinus
07-10-2012, 09:19 AM
Elona: the only game where it's a serious goal to save up and buy a bed.

AlmanacnamedTime
07-10-2012, 10:25 AM
Also I urge you guys to try out Infra Arcana (http://infraarcana.wikispaces.com/). It's a lovecraftian roguelike.

Sounds cool.


Elona: the only game where it's a serious goal to save up and buy a bed.

I just steal other peoples beds. Also if you go hone and press enter on the piles of straw will do some.

Delphinus
07-10-2012, 01:05 PM
Yeah but if you sleep on a pile of straw you're more likely to have horrible nightmares

ClockHand
07-10-2012, 01:42 PM
Elona: the only game where it's a serious goal to save up and buy a bed.

I just sleep on the Inn without paying.

Delphinus
07-10-2012, 02:31 PM
Glitch: sleeping in the inn without paying does not make the innkeeper aggressive

Outcast
07-10-2012, 03:06 PM
He never said he didn't piss off the innkeeper...

jubeh
07-10-2012, 09:47 PM
Uh its never upset the innkeeper I just figured they only charged for food.

Also whenever Im in palmia I just sleep in the king's bed.

ClockHand
07-10-2012, 09:49 PM
Uh its never upset the innkeeper I just figured they only charged for food.

Also whenever Im in palmia I just sleep in the king's bed.

So you and the king eh?

Man, I hate that the only works I'm good at are at hunting, and how few of those jobs appear sometimes. It throw me in a hole of debts.

jubeh
07-10-2012, 09:54 PM
Yeah man Im banging the king. My dude is a pretty successful trader but I get robbed all the time. I've had to find weird ways to get around the world without getting robbed. For instance I built a path of storage houses that lead from my cave to vernis and then I go to the port or derphy, buy a bunch of cargo, then use a scroll of return to get back to my house and use my path to get to vernis again without getting jumped.

Only problem is I have no reliable way of getting those scrolls. I wish I knew if there were some form of fast travel like a spell.

jaidurn
07-11-2012, 01:50 AM
So I just beat up a punk and taught her insults. She then proceeded to shoot me while my pet stood there and did nothing.

Edit:
How do I even level up man? I kill everything and nothing happens.

jubeh
07-11-2012, 01:55 AM
If you look at your level it shows a number. Thats how much experience you need.

You get it from:
Killing monsters/NPCs
Training skills
Travelling on the world map (if you have the Traveling skill)
Blessed potions of descent (instantly gain one level)
Sleep events

It actually kind of blows because the benefits of leveling up suck and monsters scale to your level. Also check your character sheet because the game doesn't really tell you when you're allowed to take more feats so you might have the option to gain some.

jaidurn
07-11-2012, 02:09 AM
Okay, thanks.

So it just doesn't tell me anything. I end up getting pick pocketed and I lost no money. I'm okay with that. I then visited this weird cave thing and a whole bunch of street performers just gang raped me to death p. much. I don't. What.

Delphinus
07-11-2012, 04:43 AM
http://i49.tinypic.com/2ighgyf.png

I play a hipster art student wizard called Maria. With a pet bear.

http://i46.tinypic.com/2mhv7h5.png

So I'm on this hunting quest. Fairly standard level, Maria's murdering the kobolds, crabs, etc. using Magic Dart and Ice Bolt. The last enemy is a punk. The punk has a gun. The punk guns Maria down in two turns. Wtf game.

EDIT: Btw I know sleeping in the inn without paying not upsetting the shopkeeper isn't a glitch, it just seems far too nice compared to the rest of the game.

ClockHand
07-11-2012, 07:59 AM
Guns can be crazy, I have a machine gun that does 10d2+2 and a hit bonus +2. Even if is not that much damage (compared to my claymore), the lowest roll is gonna give you 12.

Guys, I killed the tutorial guy. Well I didn't kill him myself, for some reason the two npcs at the beginning start fighting, and he die. I looted everything.

AlmanacnamedTime
08-02-2012, 08:46 PM
You can kill them both but only if you skip the tutorial it seemes.

Edit: got named Noble Phantasm. lol.

Outcast
08-02-2012, 09:36 PM
You can kill them both but only if you skip the tutorial it seemes.

Edit: got named Noble Phantasm. lol.

...So did I.

AlmanacnamedTime
08-02-2012, 10:46 PM
Cool.