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ram
04-18-2012, 07:09 PM
I got too used to drawing backgrounds with buildings and streets and stuffs just go along the grid but it seems that I have a problem when it comes to landscaping...

specially the ground.. I just can't picture what shape it should have..

I'll be looking into references to enhance my imagination... but is there any pointers that you guys always think about when drawing landscapes?

GunZet
04-18-2012, 07:22 PM
Pay attention to shape.
Shape shape shape. Foreground and background, and the harmony between formations. I know landscapes in real life are all over the place, because they can do what they want, but unless you're THAT badass, and on a godly level, if you're drawing your own landscapes, you want to make sure you got a good composition.

I'm sure Cype can help you with this better, cause this is his specialty. But basically, do little thumbnails to help you out, and don't just jump right into it.
Use grayscale to start off, so you can focus more on formation, shape, and compo.

Something like this, for example.
http://unlabeled.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/taroko013.jpg

Hamachi
04-18-2012, 09:01 PM
Eyurgh; I vaguely remember memorizing several things from a book but most of them escape my head now. Oh, I do remember one thing though. Shapes are more distinct in the foreground but colors from the same objects are also brighter. Something about the air and whatnot having a blurring effect the further away you go, I seem to recall.

ram
04-19-2012, 06:55 AM
yeah Cype did discussed it in his tutorial that further stuffs are actually lighter..


Pay attention to shape.
Shape shape shape. Foreground and background, and the harmony between formations. I know landscapes in real life are all over the place, because they can do what they want, but unless you're THAT badass, and on a godly level, if you're drawing your own landscapes, you want to make sure you got a good composition.

I'm sure Cype can help you with this better, cause this is his specialty. But basically, do little thumbnails to help you out, and don't just jump right into it.
Use to start off, so you can focus more on formation, shape, and compo.

Something like this, for example.
http://unlabeled.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/taroko013.jpg

what's annoying is that I don't really know when to use hard brush and soft brush.. basically I guess it's painting that's my real problem is..
Cype even has a specialty? I thought he's just good at everything!

Rubisko
04-19-2012, 07:15 AM
Basically, you just want to use a hard brush on your focal points, ie where you want the viewer to look. In his tutorial Cype talks about how distance increases the atmospheric distortion, and distortion = less details. This video is good for understanding why it hurts your painting to render everything with a hard brush, I forwarded it to the beginning of the paintover I was thinking of (it covers three in total); http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=N9JNSIN5xYE#t=3331s

ram
04-19-2012, 08:06 AM
http://www.portraitpaintingcn.com/files/landscape-forest-painting-high-quality.jpg
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee388/skyramiel/paintedonthegb.png

I tried to copy a piece of art and seems to come up with a piece of crap.... basically I don't even know where to start in painting this thing..OTL

GunZet
04-19-2012, 11:38 AM
Art isn't Call of Duty, buddy, you can't just jump in and start painting something like that and expect it to come out perfect. You have to build it piece by piece, step by step, and don't rush.

And truth be told, even if you took a whole week trying to copy that piece, it still would be nowhere close. You have to take the time to practice and understand.

Start out black and white so you don't lose yourself in the muddy colors.

nextweek
04-19-2012, 11:39 AM
http://www.portraitpaintingcn.com/files/landscape-forest-painting-high-quality.jpg
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee388/skyramiel/paintedonthegb.png

I tried to copy a piece of art and seems to come up with a piece of crap.... basically I don't even know where to start in painting this thing..OTL


When painting ... Always start with your background first
Then, you want to start with light colors... Then slowly build on the darker colors
And always remember that a painting takes many layers till completion

GunZet
04-19-2012, 01:17 PM
^
That too. Gud tips.

This is a lot less forgiving when you do it traditionally.

ram
04-19-2012, 07:40 PM
I remember cype made that tutorial about value sketching where you start with black silhouettes and detail it with lighter colors and there's another tutorial where it's another way around... but yeah he deleted it before I even got to read everything.

So where can I find a tutorial like that? is there one on youtube? I just want to know the keyword of what it's called

GunZet
04-19-2012, 07:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGYqZZwzp18

And check out anything else from this guy.

ram
04-19-2012, 09:48 PM
What's amazing about that guy is that he always change his brush size...

I think I'll go watch this for atleast 10 times to get what his doing...

Anyways thanks!

GunZet
04-19-2012, 10:05 PM
He's changing his brush size by using the brackets, and then of course, you got pressure input. Really not that hard, what's hard is getting everything in harmony. He has good videos, I'd watch em if you wanna get a nice grasp.

nextweek
04-20-2012, 12:40 PM
And check out anything else from this guy.

You have no clue.. how many times I've referenced this dude

tagYURIT
04-20-2012, 09:15 PM
hows he changing color and opacity? .isnt that PS?

ram
04-20-2012, 09:37 PM
there's not really a shortcut key on changing opacity and color... I don't think he's changing opacity there,, he probably just got the opacity just about half and never changed it until it's finish.

kinda got things out... err... right.... I think...
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee388/skyramiel/page0001.jpg
what do you guys think?

tagYURIT
04-20-2012, 11:04 PM
what brush did he use?

tagYURIT
04-20-2012, 11:19 PM
nice =) .cool colors=)

trilokcool3
04-21-2012, 06:30 AM
Umm....
Whenever i draw those i always start with those objects which are dark. Sometimes i even don't get where to start (thats a pain :( )
even if i spend 3-4hrs still i don't get it right. Is there any specific region of where to start first , if i try to draw that forest that RAM posted .

ram
04-23-2012, 01:52 AM
what brush did he use?
just an ordinary one with just about middle in hardness and just changing size and changing shape(don't know what shape though)


Umm....
Whenever i draw those i always start with those objects which are dark. Sometimes i even don't get where to start (thats a pain :( )
even if i spend 3-4hrs still i don't get it right. Is there any specific region of where to start first , if i try to draw that forest that RAM posted .

I started with the grounds and the mountain then the last one is the trees... just start with what's further..

That aside why am I the one teaching now? O_0 how did it come to this?

Gunzet if your reading this Where do you put your fingers(left hand fingers) when sketching something like that? I had trouble to choose whether I should just have my finger on ctrl+z or just brackets all the time.

Rubisko
04-23-2012, 02:41 AM
Gunzet if your reading this Where do you put your fingers(left hand fingers) when sketching something like that? I had trouble to choose whether I should just have my finger on ctrl+z or just brackets all the time.
Yeah, I'm not pretending to be Gunz, but personally I've rebound all the tools and commands I use to the leftmost side of the keyboard; I use A and S to change my brush size.

ram
04-23-2012, 05:26 AM
what the! how did you do that?

Edit: nevermind.. I found how to do it by searching google. XD didn't knew that that was even posible thanks!

GunZet
04-23-2012, 09:08 AM
just an ordinary one with just about middle in hardness and just changing size and changing shape(don't know what shape though)



I started with the grounds and the mountain then the last one is the trees... just start with what's further..

That aside why am I the one teaching now? O_0 how did it come to this?

Gunzet if your reading this Where do you put your fingers(left hand fingers) when sketching something like that? I had trouble to choose whether I should just have my finger on ctrl+z or just brackets all the time.

I move my hands around a lot, but I often make use of the buttons on my tablet and pen, since I have an Intuos4.
But yes, rebinding the keys to better places can make the world far easier for you, haha.

ram
04-24-2012, 09:39 AM
okay then next question..

How do you guys calculate the light source?

I feel like I can do it and know about omni, spot, parallel and (uh... I forgot what it's called but it's skylight)
but I still feel like something is a miss..

any ideas?