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Evening. I am Gaff. I have trouble using colour properly and setting things in perspective. I can't be bothered with long introductions.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/MondayMan/newcobra_small.jpg
This is the last thing I actually finished. In the main, I'm happy with it, but I think I could have handled the shadows better, given where the main light source is, and the surface of his gun-arm could have been better too. Wasn't too sure what to do with fading the image out in the bottom of the picture either.
As part of my ongoing quest to become an internet millionaire, I try to post process videos on youtube and there's one for this painting if anyone's interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=751NIlBZubg
Onto something more pressing though.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/MondayMan/LupinA2flat_small.jpg
Had hoped to get this done in time for the new Lupin tv series starting, but I was ill for a while and didn't manage it. Haven't yet got back to working on it, so any input in the meantime would be greatly appreciated.
I think Lupin (on the right) is pretty much there, but Jigen (on the left) gets worse every time I look at him. The idea is that he should be running while carrying the sack over his shoulder, but I've screwed up the anatomy pretty badly and I'm not quite sure how to get myself out of this one. Any general thoughts on the perspective are also welcome; I was going for a kind of 'worm's eye view' effect.
Cloudy
04-14-2012, 09:55 AM
the bottom one is awesome I love the building! so many details, I think you should finish it.
I think Lupin does go with the perspective a little better than Jigen, Lupin looks more dynamic where as Jigen appears a little flat, keep playing around with it and you will get it I think :)
Sylux
04-14-2012, 01:53 PM
You've returned...!
the bottom one is awesome I love the building! so many details, I think you should finish it.
Thank you. :)
I'm afraid the building in the background is just an altered photograph at the moment though. As I was trying to get it done in a pretty short space of time, I didn't think it was worth attempting to draw something like that from scratch, especially not for a real place.
I've found a better reference photo for Jigen though, so hopefully I'll get some more done soon.
You've returned...!
Hah, yeah... It's been such a long time, I didn't think anyone would remember.
Regantor
04-14-2012, 07:04 PM
Huh. Nice to see somebody else that likes the classics... Mospeada's OP in the video's opening and all that. :3
Anyway. I don't really know what you mean about your colouring. The brush lines are quite obvious and all that, but I don't think it's such a problem considering the medium. The vibrancy is spot-on, aswell.
Perspective... Yeah, Jingen definately could have done with slightly bigger arms, and his hat being drawn from the underside instead of straight-on...
But overall, it seems pretty darn okay to me. Hope you stick around, dude.
Heh, thanks. I love old-school animation so I tend to draw retro characters a lot. Drew Golgo 13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oADsCzKOSU) a while back, keep meaning to have a go at Kenshiro too.
For the Cobra one, I could be over-thinking it on the colours. I dunno, my gut feeling is that I probably need more midtone on his shirt and maybe a stronger highlight around the edge of his hair.
That could be a good call on Jigen's hat though. He always has the brim pushed forwards in the show, so I hadn't considered tipping it back, but that would probably make more sense.
Hamachi
04-15-2012, 11:31 AM
Huh. Curving those perspective lines up on the edges is an interesting touch. For 3-point the standard rule is that all lines parallel to your drawing plane should still be flat. If you're going for a stylized low eyelevel fisheye feel I'd imagine they'd all be curving down, if that makes any sense.
The way those horizontal guidelines are set right now would make it look like you're above the subject, which would give an odd feeling of inversion given that your vanishing third point (at the top) conflicts with that and makes it look like you're at the bottom. But maybe you knew that all along and wanted to break the rules and I'm sounding a bit silly. Anyways, your drawing, man. 80s mangas always had that unique feel.
Eh, I dunno. The perspective lines probably aren't too good - I really don't have much experience of anything more complicated than one point. It doesn't help that I couldn't find a decent reference photo for the kind of viewpoint I'm after either. I did look at examples of regular fisheye effects, but it wasn't really that - best description I could give you would be an inverted fisheye looking upwards from the ground.
Thanks for the input anyway, it's certainly got me thinking about it again.
Rainbow_Dash
04-19-2012, 09:27 PM
I can't see it. You should upload it to your gallery. Maybe you have. I will look.
Hmm, that's odd - photobucket's usually pretty reliable. I've put the Lupin picture in the gallery anyway: link (http://www.mangatutorials.com/index.php?do=/Gaff/photo/work-in-progress-2/lupina2flat-small/)
Some preparatory work.
http://i.imgur.com/1ak9t.jpg
Blue_Dragon
04-20-2012, 07:34 PM
Dude, I love his expression in the top image.
Nothing useful to input with this post, just enjoying the sketches :3
I love Lupin III, I'm glad you informed us the the new series! I've been out of the loop anime-wise.
As a side note, my mom thinks Bruce Campbell would make a great Lupin if they made a live action film.
Thanks :) I'm hoping to have another go at the pose for the full image next, so I'll try and get that up soon.
I can kind of see Bruce Campbell as Lupin, but I think he's getting a wee bit old for it now. Evil Dead 2-era Bruce Campbell definitely. Incidentally, if you're in the US by any chance, Funimation are streaming the new Lupin series for free on their website. Unfortunately though, it seems to be region locked to the US only, so us dirty foreigners have to use the back door as usual.
Blue_Dragon
04-20-2012, 07:59 PM
I agree, the younger Bruce.
That sucks they're locking it off too other countries...kinda seems counter productive (I mean, to stream it one place, but not another.)
Yeah, I think it's probably just down to the cost and occasional legal wrangles of getting the distribution rights for different countries. I was kind of hoping Crunchyroll would have picked up the new Lupin - they're usually pretty good about showing things across more territories.
Still not got back to Lupin yet, but I drew this today. My current college project involves creating a brand of whisky aimed at women and, after I told my friends in the office about it, I started drawing this as a bit of a joke. As I didn't have much else to do, I kept working on it and I think it turned out pretty good:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/MondayMan/whiskyad_s25.jpg
Not so sure about the right arm though and her beehive was a pain.
Captain_Neko
04-28-2012, 08:05 PM
wrist looks awkward and right forearm is stunted. The beehive is great though, so your work was not wasted!
Gedeon
05-06-2012, 11:53 AM
Only thing i see that is off is the length of the arms. Not really the whole arm just the upper part....the biceps part. Its a lot longer then the forearm.
Never did get round to fixing that last drawing, but I think probably trying to get the Lupin one finished is more of a priority at the moment.
I really intended to practice drawing armour the other day, but I got a bit sidetracked.
http://i.imgur.com/Xp0oz.jpg
The fingers on her left hand are too long, but other than that, I think it's come out pretty well so far.
Ages ago, I tried drawing the main two characters from the film Breathless, but I was never happy with the likenesses, so I thought I'd have another stab at it.
http://www.mangatutorials.com/index.php?do=/Gaff/photo/work-in-progress-2/sept/download/size_500/
Originally, this was just going to be a preparatory sketch, but I thought it looked quite good as it was, so I just tidied it up a little and left it loose.
Annoyingly, I can't remember what the actual dialogue was in that scene and my copy of the film is still on loan...
Shadowsfade
06-17-2012, 06:26 AM
I cant seem to see the picture after refreshing the page a few times :(
I like the one from your previous post though, those are some awesome boots!
Hah, thanks - sadly not my own design though, you can actually buy a pair from here (http://www.etsy.com/listing/90803039/exo-boots-hydraulic-armour-for-boots?ref=sr_gallery_6&ga_search_query=armour&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_ship_to=US&ga_page=2&ga_search_type=handmade).
Strange that the image isn't showing up though, I just uploaded it straight to the gallery this time. Imgur is down at the moment, but I'll put it up there later on.
Edit: Re-upped to imgur.
http://i.imgur.com/QwSDn.jpg
JJJorgie
06-17-2012, 05:57 PM
^This looks really nice! I like the hands and profile face!
ScarletHue
06-18-2012, 04:57 AM
I love how loose it is. Got some real life to it.
Thanks :)
It came out far better than I'd expected. I like working with a brush and ink when I'm doing things on paper, so I was surprised how close it came to the same look, even though it's digital. I'll probably try doing something else in the same style another time.
So, that Lupin painting? Still not finished that. Here's something else though:
http://i.imgur.com/qSLd8.jpg
90% iPad using procreate, then into PS for some slight tweaking and added colour layers.
Was reading a tutorial by a guy who believes in using ultra-clean lineart the other day. Not sure it's a look I'd want to take up, but it did make me curious to see how far I could get using just the No. 3 hard round brush. I think it came out quite nicely :)
http://i.imgur.com/18AUg.jpg
JJJorgie
07-15-2012, 08:32 PM
This looks really nice! The all thing I'd say is to maybe make the legs a little longer. Other than that, great job!
I think super clean lineart looks really nice, but I prefer making mine a little messier (maybe I'm just lazy) :)
Thank you :) I'm unsure what to do with the legs really. I've had other comments along the same lines, but I was working from a photograph and the model's build was actually like that in real life.
In the meantime, here's some more lineart, this time produced in SAI:
http://i.imgur.com/GEzq2.jpg
Not too sure what to do with the colours on this one - I'm tempted to see if I can just tone it using nothing but spot black.
Gedeon
07-17-2012, 04:38 AM
Awesome....i think that the hip/ass area is a bit too stretched out. ANd one another thing be extreme either do it very realistic, or do it stylized. One quote i really like that my art teach spouts all the time...
''The point is not to do it right....but to make the people looking at your work BELIEVE its right'' Really like the last girl
Hmm. Looking at it again, I'm definitely sure the proportions are accurate to the way the girl is irl, presumably the picture's just not selling it right now. Oh well. Here's an update of the last piece.
http://i.imgur.com/NAw5H.jpg
Reflections. Blargh.
Rubisko
07-24-2012, 08:52 AM
ooo, shiny! Good job, I think you will be able to put this in your portfolio if you just push it to the finish. If I were you I would get rid of the specular highlight on the inside of her thigh because 1. It compete for attention with the pistons of the boot, and 2. The inside of the thigh is pretty flat and shouldn't have highligts, unless the whole plane is reflecting everything. But I do like the boots, cool design
Evil_Cake
07-24-2012, 08:55 AM
berry nice
erikamae
07-24-2012, 12:47 PM
dude, niceeeee stuff.
I'm really diggin' it, especially the newest one you posted.
She's a babe. :L Give off a very old school feel, even though the subject
isnt' very ...traditional...IDK. She's cool.
Demonfyre
07-24-2012, 05:04 PM
Wow, that drawing is very epic as always Gaff :P
Thanks guys :) It took a long time, but I'm quite pleased with this one.
Rubisko: I see what you mean about the highlight competing with the piston. The reference image I was using had a highlight in that area, but I might just take it out anyway - I've already had to knock back a few others as they just didn't look right.
More old school malarky, this time a competition entry I'm working on for another board. I'm fairly happy with it thus far, but I have bugger all idea what to do with the background.
http://i.imgur.com/yQcZ8.jpg
Doing backgrounds for pin-up type images is something I always have trouble with, so if anyone has advice on the matter, I'd be much obliged. I quite like those sort of semi-abstract patterns that other people use, but beyond sticking a radial gradient underneath the artwork, I can never seem to come up with anything good.
New iPad painting:
http://i.imgur.com/jl3RY.jpg
It's straight from the pad this time, but I'll probably add colours with PS later on.
Demonfyre
08-07-2012, 12:13 PM
That was done on an iPad? Wow :O I've tried using an iPad before and it ended in failure xD
It looks great :D the only thing I can suggest is working on that index finger it looks pretty flat compared with the other fingers and the hand. I look forward to seeing it once your finished with it in photoshop :D
Still never finished Chow Yun Fat back there, I'm afraid to say. Did make a new video though, as requested by a friend:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzIIOUEjePc&feature=relmfu
The left arm is a bit off, but I was in a hurry and I didn't really want to spend any more time on it.
The cover for my mate's collection of short horror stories. Like Mike's page (https://www.facebook.com/GhastlyTalesPresents?ref=ts&fref=ts) on Facebook or go to Wattpad (http://www.wattpad.com/user/MichaelWhitehouse6) for details of the book (due out on Kindle soon) and a few extracts.
http://i.imgur.com/SyWk8.jpg
BunnyVoid
10-05-2012, 10:16 AM
wow this is really cool. nice texture. maybe if you add similar texture to the hollows of the font bedtime, it would look better. i dunno. just an opinion. good job!
Thanks :)
That's actually quite a good idea about adding the texture to the font. The image was already approved for use, but I'll ask him and see what he thinks.
Demonfyre
10-06-2012, 09:14 AM
Oh wow, that looks like it will be interesting :D
Something new:
http://i.imgur.com/oVlkT.jpg
This is a gift piece for a friend who's very much into collecting Japanese Megadrive games. Hence, I'm trying to work in a lineless, textured style to try and imitate the look of the box art from the time. Unfortunately, it's not a style I'm used to and (making matters even worse) I originally thought I was going to need to have it done inside of two days. Cue me making a bodge-job of the anatomy and winding up with a half-arsed attempt to copy an old Frank Frazetta painting.
In the main, I think it's looking better now than it was (early versions looks scarily like late-period Michael Jackson), but I'm particularly concerned about the right arm. I might just be over thinking it, but if anyone has any suggestions on how I could make it look a bit more natural, I'm all ears.
Rubisko
10-16-2012, 11:53 AM
I think it looks nice already, but since you pointed it out; yeah the shoulders-neck are a bit unevenly spaced. If you flip it around a bit you might get the distance to the drawing you need to solve it.
BunnyVoid
10-16-2012, 07:02 PM
nice! skin looks great! texture, especially on jeans is cool too.
maybe try to lessen the light and highlight on the arm on the right. since its farther back, maybe it should be more in the shadows...also maybe you need to nudge his head a little to our right, just a tiny bit. to fit the flow indicated by the leg on the left. maybe tilt it a little?
tho i'm not sure. but i hope that helps.
Thanks for the input guys, but in the end, I decided the original sketch just wasn't cutting it.
This, I think, is a better composition, but I'm still not completely sure about the colours. In particular, I think the skintone is too washed out and I'm not sure what, if anything, I could really do to get around that. The castle could be sharper as well, but I'm pretty rotten with landscapes and I'm finding it difficult to harden up the outline of it without taking attention away from the foreground.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/MondayMan/lf_final_small.jpg
Unfortunately, I've kinda lost that oil-pastel feeling too - couldn't seem to get the texture back into it without destroying the tones in the process.
Book cover is really nice, great composition.
The composition of the cartridge box is also excellent, possibly the only thing I would change is flip the illustration horizontally so it directs the eye from the boomerang? Down to the right hand. Unless you already had this in mind with Japanese going right to left?
I also think the castle is working quite well as is considering the vicinity to the light source. Also as you said it would take away from the foreground
Thank you :) Mike tells me the book cover's been very well received thus far, so I think I'll try and see if I can pick up any other commissions along similar lines.
As for the MD box, I think you may have rumbled me. It did go through my mind when I was trying to get a good composition for the piece that the boomerang should really be in his right hand.
Having said that though, my own feeling was that, if the figure is flipped with his right arm raised, the image doesn't read as well - I find it more pleasing to have the 'empty space' on the left, moving up towards the boomerang on the right. I do understand where you're coming from - going the other way, you're seeing the boomerang, then following his aim - but I dunno, maybe it's just personal taste. It's certainly something I'll keep in mind the next time.
BunnyVoid
11-12-2012, 09:03 PM
Woah nice!
I love the color environment here. Looks epic to me
Like Ivk said, background really gives good focus on the subject
Although i think the size of the font below may be a bit too big
I also like this pose a lot better than the previous. more dynamic and expressive
Shading style is also cool ;3 hehehe
Thank you :)
Unfortunately, I managed to save over my working file with a flattened version, so I can't really adjust the size of the text now. There's an important lesson in here about keeping backup files...
Anyway, I've got the back cover and the spine for the box nearly complete, so hopefully I should get it printed today. I'll post a photo of the finished item once I've got it trimmed and put into the case.
So here it is, the elusive "ラワンボユスポスト1975", pulled from shelves after only three days on sale due to a massive dispute between Sega and NCS Masaya...
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdi006NfO21rslmj4.jpg
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdi00kzmpQ1rslmj4.jpg
theAnimeRebel
11-15-2012, 11:39 AM
Final version looks great.
Thank you :)
In hindsight, I could have saved myself a bit of time if I'd worked out how much space the screenshots were going to cover before painting the art underneath, but no matter. I'm pleased with it.
BunnyVoid
11-17-2012, 01:20 AM
it really looks good printed! i think the font went well too.
and yes, it is pleasing to look at. your friend who requested (like you said, right? not to sure) must be happy with it
Gedeon
11-22-2012, 08:16 AM
I like how everything turned out...but the only thing that kinda sticks out is the face...i really dont know why but it ....looks wrong to me ...at least the part between the cheeks and the jaw....other then that AWESOME.
Cheers guys :)
BunnyVoid: He's not actually seen it yet! I need to mail it to him, so hopefully I'll get it posted off soon.
Gedeon: Yeah, I kinda get what you mean about the face. It looks better in reality than it does in the photo, but I was never completely happy with the shading around the cheek/jaw area - might be just that it lacks definition. I think maybe my trying to suggest some of the light coming off the boomerang controller was causing problems, but I couldn't get it fixed in time.
Here's a clearer version:
http://i.imgur.com/5zWUC.jpg
Nearly finished with this, but I can't quite work out the hair highlight. Serves me right for breaking the laws of hair-physics.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/MondayMan/rainy3.jpg
Blue_Dragon
11-27-2012, 01:19 PM
Wow! I really like the composition, and the hair style you're going for is cool. Also, nice tattoo :3
I am not really feeling the umbrella...I feel as if the top is 3d, and the bottom is a little flat. Dunno why...that's just my opinion. I also think the seam on her hose should be more behind the calf, so off the right more as we see it. When I first looked, I thought her legs were together and that was a line dividing them. Then when I looked closer, it makes it look like her hose are all askew, which is very uncomfortable. But I also feel there's something wrong with the calf in general.
Aside from that, I think this is an interesting image, and I like the way it's looking so far! Fantastic!
Any better?
http://i.imgur.com/GASkX.jpg
Admittedly, the seam was a bit of an afterthought. Originally, I was going to try using a screentone for her stockings instead.
I'm not quite sure what you mean about the umbrella though - is it the shaft that looks flat?
Demonfyre
11-27-2012, 10:25 PM
It looks awesome Alan :D the way you drew that hair is amazing!
I think I will have to agree with Dragon though, the umbrella does look pretty flat, which stands out because the rest of it isn't. Maybe if you darken/lightly shade the parts where the umbrella reclines slightly? (If that makes any sense)
JJJorgie
11-27-2012, 10:54 PM
I have to agree with Dragon about the legs looking off. The seam looks better, but I believe the big problem is that the far foot is too far away. It takes a couple looks to really notice it, so the eye kind of tricks your mind into think that calf is both of the legs (if that makes sense). I'd suggest moving the far foot closer or maybe making the thighs look more seperate.
The piece is really good. I love her hair!!!
Blue_Dragon
11-29-2012, 05:26 AM
^ What Jjjorgie says
And about the umbrella, I was talking about the bottom part, the ends of the "spokes." Here's a couple pictures showing the bottoms. I don't know the terminology for the parts of the umbrella! Dang my limited vocabulary! I'm gonna call the bottom the "webbing" though that's wrong. If you maybe tilt the left tip and the right tip up a little, that may help to give it a little more dimension. I hope that makes sense, but if it doesn't, here's some pictures :D Thanks for getting through all that.
http://static.neatoshop.com/images/product/93/693/Samurai-Umbrella_2650-l.jpg?v=2650
http://www.yankodesign.com/images/design_news/2010/05/13/umbrella_cup2.jpg
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowldc/files/2011/03/umbrella1.png
theAnimeRebel
11-29-2012, 01:41 PM
Hmm, yes... I do think the umbrella needs some help.
I think the proportion of the umbrella compared to the girl is a little off--- it seems too big. Also, some perspective here, you need to match the perspective of the umbrella to the figure. (It does appear to be too 2D, if you catch all these person's drifts)
- - - Updated - - -
...And is that umbrella holding a coffee in it's *hand*?
Blue_Dragon
11-30-2012, 03:53 AM
Lol. It sure is. That's dedication...(sorry for spamming a bit o_O)
Work has conspired to keep me from going back to that last picture. I do have a couple of new things though:
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/356/0/6/lupin_iii___fujiko_by_professor_irony-d5ou3kb.jpg
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDJv1RbGLJI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W45WIK0WtOY
Struggled a bit with the colours on this one.
Yukie
12-31-2012, 11:13 PM
I think your drawing with the lady holding the umbrella looks great! I love the bold shading of the dress, it sort of hints at the texture of the dress, and it shows just how confident you are with your style. Which is awesome!
The leg looks a lot better too! I'm in no way an anatomy expert. However, I think that the lower leg is still rather thick in comparison with the upper leg. Usually, the fat distribution in women is around the thighs, so they should be the widest point of the lower extremities. The lower leg you drew looks like it's as wide as the thigh, which can throw off the perspective. I think perhaps the seam you added would be an adequate border (which may have been why some, including myself, thought initially that the legs were positioned together). However, this is your style and not mine, so it's really your call ultimately!
As for the umbrella, I think it looks fine. It'll probably pop out more with a little more shading. One thing perhaps, that contributes to the flat feeling, is that you included 5 folds (or whatever they're called) to the umbrella. Usually, the more distant ones are angled upwards to give an impression of depth. This is only vaguely apparent in the examples you provided, but those don't have as many folds.
Thank you :)
It took me a long while before I actually saw the problem with the proportions of her leg. I was so convinced it was just the stocking seam that was off, that I couldn't see how small her thigh looks by comparison to the calf. Still not sure what to do with the umbrella really. I might just replace it altogether. At the time, I put all the effort into figure, so when it came to drawing the brolly, it was rather phoned in.
Also: another Blade Runner video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEaWZXyrzzM
Although I'm happy enough with how it turned out, I think this one was kind of a failure, in a way. In trying to rush it through before the end of the year, I didn't really manage to keep the style consistent with the other ones.
JJJorgie
01-01-2013, 06:58 PM
These new videos are pretty cool :) Good job on them! On this latest one, the hand on the right's pointer finger, maybe bend it a little. Just to make it look like his gripping the gun more to match his facial expression (?)
Thank you :)
And yeah, the fingers could probably do with a bit more work. I did that last one in a rush and I didn't spend as long on the hands as I really should have done.
One of my favorite movies of all time. Good job on Deckard. I'm planning on painting Roy Batty myself.
Very nice linework, though I think it would benefit you to mess around with varying line width to give the illusion of depth, you know, thicker/thinner lines on foreground type of thing. I donno, I think maybe it would be kind of fun.
Yeah, normally I would try to vary the line width a bit more, but I dunno - I seem to find it easier to do that when I'm working in SAI rather than photoshop.
Something new. One of the other boards was a running a contest along the lines of 'draw your own character in the style of a different artist'. I thought this was a really interesting idea, but I wasn't going to enter it, because I had far too much work on. Then I noticed only one person was entering. I thought that was kinda sad, so...
http://i.imgur.com/NNzWR6x.jpg
Mine on the left, in the style of Kenichi Sonoda (Bubblegum Crisis, Gunsmith Cats) on the right. It needs another pass to work on the finer details like folds and line weight (it also badly wants colouring), but otherwise I'm quite pleased with it.
JJJorgie
02-04-2013, 06:11 PM
These look great, Gaff! Just a couple little things: On the left, her thumb is too long, particularly the segment closest to her hand (if that makes sense). On the right, her closer breast is lower than the other.
Duly noted, cheers. I've got a couple of other things to fix before I can colour them (the left eye on the left figure bothers me every time I see it), so I'll keep those in mind.
darkmousysminion
02-09-2013, 03:38 AM
I like these. It's always fun to emulate another artist's style. You did a good job.
Points:
-I don't know if it's just me but as an extreme nit pick, her right breast (so the one we see on the left) on the kenichi sonoda style one seems a tiny tiny bit uneven with the other.
-In the same drawing, her left thumb isn't long enough. The hand in general looks a little odd, like her palm isn't long enough.
Can't wait to see them colored :)
Thanks :)
But yeah, the left hand there is not great. I had to fire these out pretty quickly to get them done in time, so I think a lot of little mistakes got left in. Looking at it now, the right thigh of the right-hand drawing seems too straight as well.
Oh well, hopefully I'll get back to these next week.
Throw away your custom brushes. The bog-standard PS airbrush is officially mankind's greatest achievement.
http://i.imgur.com/NggykDA.jpg
Callesthe
02-27-2013, 05:23 AM
ohh this is looking great already! i adore your brush strokes, they look so soft and nice O:
as some critiques i could say that her left hand fingers don't look exactly right.
the other things i can see are that you got a nice understanding of shades already, they seem right in place :3
the only thing i'm doubting about is the colour. your shades seem very greyish.. it might turn out nicer if you gave them a more saturated colour. blue or purple will suffice perfectly :3
i made a redline for you so you might understand better what i'm talking about :3
http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/mysterycookie1/redline_zps9f1b10fb.png
i'm curious to see the result :D
Ah, thanks for taking the time to redline - I was already planning to redo the fingers, but the thumb's been giving me some trouble. I kind of hit on the grey shading by accident (I didn't like my first colour scheme, so I started desaturating everything) and I'd left it at that as I wanted the colours to be quite neutral, but seeing the purple colour in the shadows gives it a real neon lighting look. That intrigues me enough to want to do something with it...
Did some work on her fingers the other night - ideally I want them wrapped round the butt of the pistol, rather than straight across. I've not tried adding more colour into the shadows yet either, but I want to have a basic character sheet-type version finished before I try anything too fancy.
http://i.imgur.com/4xe1tch.jpg
Present for a friend of mine (Stargate is her favourite show):
http://i.imgur.com/t03NvsEl.jpg (http://imgur.com/t03NvsE)
Not too happy with the shape of the hair, but I've kinda painted in the outline now so I dunno if there's much I can do to change it. Otherwise, not going too badly so far.
JJJorgie
03-22-2013, 09:13 PM
Whoa! I like the kinda spongy-ish texture! The ear's a bit hard to see and it looks a little small and low (but I don't have your ref, so I'm not for sure). Maybe try to define it slightly more (?)
Yeah, I think you're right about the ear. I wasn't able to fill it in properly at the time, as I'd run out of flesh-toned paint and I didn't want to mix any more, but I'll see if I can make it a little larger when I go back to it.
Blue_Dragon
03-24-2013, 11:45 AM
Can you post a picture of your reference? That would help compare the two, but I think this is looking good so far. Are you going to post it again when you've got more done? :D
Sure thing. The lighting has much more contrast in the original, but I don't think I'll try to copy that.
http://i.imgur.com/UIyIRBal.jpg (http://imgur.com/UIyIRBa)
But yeah, I'll post it again once I've done more to it. I've started putting his shirt in, but I've not been back to the ear yet.
Blue_Dragon
03-25-2013, 11:45 PM
Wow! You can really tell it's the same dude! Yeah, it's looking great so far. Though, I think his forehead is a little bigger in the photograph.
Something else I've been working on.
http://i.imgur.com/IL3Gxpa.jpg
Line weight might be a bit too chunky, I dunno.
JJJorgie
04-11-2013, 12:41 AM
I think the lineweight looks fine, except that the girl's hand and forearm may look a little better with thinner lines. Also, I think her mouth is a little too low.
Callesthe
04-11-2013, 08:58 AM
ohhh wow this looks nice!! lineweight looks great, though i guess you can use more lineweight variation in the contour lines of the two people :3 they are now all the equal broadness and it looks a bit like cut-out figures if you understand what i mean :3 this might be your objective then it's fine, but else i'd change it a bit :3
I think the lineweight looks fine, except that the girl's hand and forearm may look a little better with thinner lines. Also, I think her mouth is a little too low.
I did wonder about the hand, but that was the part I wanted to stand out in particular - my hope was that it would 'pop' more than the rest of the figure. I agree about the mouth though; I've nudged it up a little and redrawn her chin to compensate.
ohhh wow this looks nice!! lineweight looks great, though i guess you can use more lineweight variation in the contour lines of the two people :3 they are now all the equal broadness and it looks a bit like cut-out figures if you understand what i mean :3 this might be your objective then it's fine, but else i'd change it a bit :3
Yeah, I think what bothers me the most is that the lines are much the same on both characters - ideally I would have liked the bloke to recede more into the background. My mistake was probably drawing both figures in separate files, so I only realised the lines were so uniform when I moved them both onto the same canvas. Thanks anyway :)
I was in a hurry with this one as I wanted it for a cover design contest on another board, so here's what I've submitted:
http://media.tumblr.com/6e735709ba0fff268f9858a6bead3d6f/tumblr_inline_ml3gy0P64V1qz4rgp.jpg
Demonfyre
04-12-2013, 10:54 AM
Did I ever tell you how much I love the way you draw hair? Oh well, I have now. Anyway, the only thing that I see worth mentioning is that the guys hand in front of his face, his fingers seem to only have two joints, one attaching them to the bones of the hand, and the primary joints in each finger. I know this image (http://cdn.teenink.com/art/Sept04/HandOverFace72.jpeg) isn't amazingly close to what you have in the drawing but it will do. I guess using this image i'm just trying to show that the secondary joints in the fingers do show somewhat, even though it's very subtle.
http://cdn.teenink.com/art/Sept04/HandOverFace72.jpeg
Thanks man :)
But yeah, I get what you mean about the fingers. I'll try and tidy up the hand before I put it on deviantart or anything.
ScarletHue
04-15-2013, 09:48 AM
Let's talk about selling reality. When I look at a drawing, I want it to convince me that I'm not looking at a drawing, but that I'm looking into another world. A lot of things have to be right for that to happen. One of which is, all the elements of the drawing need to make sense together.
Now to my point, the girl is holding a gun, but considering what she's holding, there isn't much emotion to her face. Perhaps if she's a twisted character, we'll see pleasure or something. Of if she's a more ordinary person, fear. Or if she's used to wielding weapons, perhaps a dead focus. But none of these come across in the expression you've drawn.
Another thing is that if she plans on using that gun, she needs to be looking down the barrel and aiming it. But you've drawn her eyes such that she's looking away from the gun, off to one side.
The man on the other hand, is far better :).
I apologize if I come across as rude. I intend only to be helpful, and I think sometimes people worry so much about sugar coating what they say, that they don't offer that much help.
That's enough from me!
-Scarlet
I did consider bringing her arm to the front and having her aim directly at the viewer, but I wasn't happy with that as a composition. Specifically, I didn't want to obscure her face, and having her aim somewhere else would mean directing her eyes away too. Ultimately, I don't feel it's that much of an issue; for arguement's sake, she could aim at one of two people standing side-by-side, glancing to ther other without moving the gun from the first.
The expression could be better though, I agree on that. Even at the time I drew it, I wasn't satisfied with it, but like always, I'd left it to the last minute to stick something in for the competition and I didn't have time to change it any further. I was probably too hung up on getting the type set and worrying about whether the lower band was still readable.
I apologize if I come across as rude. I intend only to be helpful, and I think sometimes people worry so much about sugar coating what they say, that they don't offer that much help.
Much as I feel that starting a post with "let's talk about selling reality" makes it sound like you have an axe to grind, I do agree that it's better people say what's on their mind in this sort of situation. I think it's worthing learning to meet even the harshest criticism with "thank you and may I have another?"
Think this is going to be the final version, but I've tried to address all the comments I've had on it so far.
http://www.mangatutorials.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=638&d=1367020954
I'm going to update the tumblr image soon, so the earlier link may break or end up looking identical.
Regantor
04-27-2013, 02:34 PM
Really like that package-y(?) sort of style... Lack of shading on her arm holding the pistol makes the foreshortening on the arm look a little weird to me, alrough it isn't super noticable unless you go examining it super-closely I guess. Could probably be solved by making the angle of the sleeve more straight-on and rounder?... If you want to be a perfectionist, anyway.
Yeah, I do like it through, just being helpful.
Shading was something I really couldn't make up my mind about on this one. Originally, I was going to try shading it Hotel Dusk style, just with loose hatching and such, but in the end I thought there might be too much going on, what with the pattern on top of it and all.
I dunno - tl;dr, I get what you mean about the arm. Cheers man :)
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