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CypressDahlia
02-11-2012, 07:55 PM
I'm working on something. here, have some preliminary character designs:

http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2012/02/CypressDahlia-rpgmain-png.png
http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2012/02/CypressDahlia-gunner-png.png
http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2012/02/CypressDahlia-rogue-png.png
http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2012/02/CypressDahlia-lancer-png.png?t=4f370d93d9e52
http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2012/02/CypressDahlia-redmage-png.png?t=4f370d94ccf28
http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2012/02/CypressDahlia-character-8.png?t=4f370d91b4cdc

Psy
02-12-2012, 12:04 AM
Awesome.

CypressDahlia
02-12-2012, 02:36 AM
thx you. Sorry for lack of details, we're in super pre-production right now.

http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2012/02/CypressDahlia-character-7.png?t=4f376bea6f1ee

Going through some alternate designs for a villain:

http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2012/02/CypressDahlia-character-6-v2.png?t=4f379d7301201

Bacon_Barbarian
02-12-2012, 10:21 AM
We? Anyway, yeah. These look really good. I'd say at this point it's the plot that's going to b your issue (not having idea what the plot is.)

Celestial-Fox
02-12-2012, 11:34 AM
That villain looks too cool to be a bad guy. :<

CypressDahlia
02-12-2012, 12:23 PM
Well, at least you think he's cool haha. Thanks for the feedback. If you guys have any design ideas, feel free to make suggestions. Usually I'm taking recommendations in the GB, and I will credit you all for helping out if and when the final product is released.

This costume was pretty well received in the GB, so I might roll with it:

http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2012/02/CypressDahlia-v3.png?t=4f37f5537d280

Psy
02-12-2012, 06:44 PM
Forgive me if this isint helpful at all but the colors of the villain change what I think of him a lot.
The green and grey makes me think technological mad man.
The red and blue one makes me think he is hell bent on destroying everything.
The gold and beige(khaki?) one looks like he is fueled by a sort of whacked out religious group that believes in peace thru dominance.

Kodos
02-13-2012, 03:54 AM
Cype, wasn't this for some sort of JRPG you were working on? If so I'll move this to the video game area where it belongs. If not, the art is great, although, yeah, you should definitely offer up some plot details.

Either way, lovely art as always, and nice to see a person of color in there.

CypressDahlia
02-13-2012, 07:37 AM
Ah k, if that's a better fit I guess we should move it. I just thought Manga Works would be a nice place for when I get the character descriptions and some plot/dialog written down, it would be more relevant to writing/manga critiques.

And actually, Psy, that helps a lot. Had a production meeting last night and it seems like white and gold, but with a little more variation, is what they're shooting for. I guess I will use the blue/red and gray/green for other characters.


EDIT:

http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2012/02/CypressDahlia-character-2-v2.png?t=4f39522db9c49

A redesign of the second character from the first post. They said they needed someone more "mature" looking, yet still seemingly cocky, overzealous and obnoxiously charismatic. Also a ranged weapon user.

EDIT:+++

Shots of two finalized characters being all edgy in chairs:

http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2012/02/CypressDahlia-character-1-official-lineart.png?t=4f3b23e94da21
http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2012/02/CypressDahlia-character-4-official-lines.png?t=4f3b23e9e309f

Bacon_Barbarian
02-15-2012, 01:25 AM
Personally, I think if you put the second guy's original design with the costume design in your last post, you'll get what you're looking for. But that's just me.

CypressDahlia
02-15-2012, 10:14 AM
Thanks for the input. Though, that particular design has already been approved for finalization, sadly.

redesigns of the first post, third chara:

http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2012/02/CypressDahlia-character-3-alts.png?t=4f3c450437b50

Went for something more stealthy (as opposed to athletic) and bandit-like. Also less ornate except maybe the right hand one.

Kodos
02-16-2012, 09:45 PM
Spoke to the other mods, and yeah, this is going in video games. So as a heads up to anyone else reading this who might have similar projects - mangaworks is for manga projects. And, I guess, if you were really crazy ambitious and working on an anime yourself, that would go in mangaworks too. If you're working on a roleplay or a story, that's creator's corner, and if it's a vidya game, it's video games.

CypressDahlia
02-17-2012, 11:25 PM
Ah, okay. Thanks for clearing that up.

deadpool6365
02-18-2012, 01:27 AM
Nice work. I like the latest character designs, reminds me of Vincent from FFVII a bit though. Still, lovin' what's in progress. Can't wait to see more of it. :)

CypressDahlia
02-18-2012, 12:54 PM
Thanks. I will keep this thread updated as progress is made.

A rough outline for the beginning sequence:

We follow the main character (http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2012/02/CypressDahlia-rpgmain-png.png) as he wanders through the forest, all bloodied up after an implied, almost fatal encounter. He seems to be desperately trying to get away from somewhere, though his wounds slow him down significantly. He's basically on the verge of collapsing. As he's wandering, he crosses paths with a stranger (http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2012/02/CypressDahlia-character-2-v2.png?t=4f39522db9c49) who, after looking him over, runs to his aid. They have a quick exchange before the main character is struck by a powerful headache and faints.

This whole time, a third character (http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2012/02/CypressDahlia-character-3-alts.png?t=4f3c450437b50) has been silently stalking the main character. He is a notorious thief/bandit/whatever and obvious opportunist, seeing the injured MC as a prime target for mugging. When the second character enters the picture, he figures he might aswell kill two birds with one stone. At this point the "stranger" has already begun trying to drag the main character's body to safety, but is having a lot of difficulty because the MC is physically larger than him. (Of course there are ulterior motives here, but those are revealed later for character development purposes)

So, our thief dude hops out of the shadows, confronts the two (one KO'd main character and one character struggling to assist him) and does the entire "give me your money and you can leave here alive" spiel. Of course, the second character doesn't take kindly to this and they have a small squabble before they're interrupted by some authorities who seem to have tracked the main character into the forest.

So the head of the authorities says, "hand that man (MC) over peacefully, he's wanted for murder." Of course, the second and third characters are surprised by this and give each other confused looks. Then, one of the police subordinates chimes in, "Hey, that one (second character) is covered in blood, he must be an accomplice." Naturally, the second guy contests that the blood is from attempting to help the MC. They ignore his pleas. Then, another subordinate chimes in, "...and isn't that one (third character) wanted?" The chief pulls out a wanted roster and confirms this, listing charges for "thievery and vandalism". He calls for backup and now our cast is surrounded on both sides. So, seeing as they're all inextricably fucked, the two conscious characters decide "well, we might as well stand and fight."

[Insert Tutorial battle]

At the end of the tutorial battle, the beaten chief calls for backup once more and two [big boss enemies] enter. The two characters are like "fuck, we don't stand a chance, what do we do." Just then, the MC exhibits some strange power that eliminates both of the large enemies almost instantly. Of course, the two conscious characters are both impressed and highly confused by this. The second character takes a sudden interest in the MC and decides he will stick around to help him (insert ulterior motives). The thief decides to do the same, not only because he now owes the MC his life, but because he figures wherever the MC was going, it's away from any authorities. He also likes the temporary security of traveling in a group, and figures he could ditch them anytime if things get too hairy.

So, together, the second and third characters form a very shaky pact and drag the MC to the next town.

[End scene]

IMO, it's p. standard RPG fare. It's supposed to seem rather bare bones. The scene will be revisited later in the game during character development sequences, and you learn the real motives of the second character, etc, etc.

As far as battles go, the system we decided on is a turn-based, grid-based tactics system. The twist is that the combat is primarily combo-based, meaning the key to winning battles will be arranging your characters and ordering their attacks in a way that will cause enemies to be caught in successive attacks.

jubeh
02-18-2012, 04:38 PM
Sounds like hoshigami which was fucking rad so looking forward to seeing how it pans out.

CypressDahlia
02-18-2012, 04:52 PM
Yep. It will be a lot like how sessions work in Hoshigami, except the entire system will be based around that concept. You move all of your characters in one turn, queue up all of their attacks and use reaction commands to execute the successive blows. We're also thinking about implementing inverse proration and special finishers, and possibly interactive objects on the battlefield. Like being able to kick your enemies through rocks and walls for added damage.

Rio
02-18-2012, 11:00 PM
The girl with the red plaid skirt - she looks shapeless around the waist area. I suggest either a) you really make the skirt/dress? into a real baby doll top (i.e. the shirt goes away from the vest instead of coming in a bit and then flaring) or b) redesigning it a bit like adding a belt or other clothing.

Sylux
02-26-2012, 02:38 PM
Spoke to the other mods, and yeah, this is going in video games. So as a heads up to anyone else reading this who might have similar projects - mangaworks is for manga projects. And, I guess, if you were really crazy ambitious and working on an anime yourself, that would go in mangaworks too. If you're working on a roleplay or a story, that's creator's corner, and if it's a vidya game, it's video games.

Actually, thanks to Jaidurn and I, Rio retitled it to Manga & Anime Works. :3

Cype, for the bandit, I like the first design's headwear mixed with the third's clothing.

CypressDahlia
02-29-2012, 01:16 AM
Thanks for all the input as far as the characters are concerned. Sorry I can't use it all tho because the character designs were already finalized by the production team. I'm sorry. =[

But I do need your help deciding on a design for a scientist-type character. She is meant to be more mature than the other female characters. She is basically going to be our male fanservice, to counter the female fanservice the rogue is meant to provide. I have until Sat. for the production meeting, so I can tweak designs based on your guys' advice. Personally, I'm partial to the left one.

http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2012/02/CypressDahlia-character-8-v2.png?t=4f4dc0701939d

She is a gimmick character, BTW. I believe she won't ever physically fight. Instead she built a mech in the shape of a bear to fight for her. You can suggest changes to this design as well, tho I'm fairly confident in it:

http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2012/02/CypressDahlia-bear-v2.png?t=4f4dc10dc6f84

Clearly inspired by some of the Maverick designs, mixed with some MMZero sensibilities.

And here are the official lines for all the finalized characters:

http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2012/02/CypressDahlia-character-3-official-lineart.png?t=4f4dc1afc2e24

Since he is meant to be a character that appeals to girls, I and another production team member asked girls we know for their opinions. They went with the (sleeveless) middle design. Oh, and NWAP, too...randomly.

http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2012/02/CypressDahlia-character-2-official-lines.png?t=4f4dc1b0c1e7a
http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2012/02/CypressDahlia-redmagelines-png.png?t=4f4dc1b0417e1

The finalized design for the caster of the group (http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2012/02/CypressDahlia-redmagev3-png_500.png?t=4f4dc27f1d6c7). Originally she was color schemed pink but to suggest ambidexterity in offensive and healing/support magic, we went with white and black. We couldn't decide on the hat so I picked the one that was most unified with the general aesthetic. I hope it was a good decision.


Oh, and one of our background artists uploaded some battle assets, so hopefully I can share those with you with his permission.

Rio
02-29-2012, 08:06 PM
Good stuff. Keep 'em coming! (assuming you can that is C: )

Sylux
02-29-2012, 08:32 PM
I think the man in the chair would look good with some stubble.

Rio
02-29-2012, 09:06 PM
Giving him stubble will completely change his character. He looks more like a pretty boy than a bad ass so unless he was meant to be bad ass, he's fine as is. :|

Sylux
02-29-2012, 09:15 PM
Well I have stubble and I'm told I'm more on the pretty boy side. I can definitely see what you're saying, though, Rio.