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Saiyagal85
12-29-2011, 01:06 PM
While I have been drawing for years, I just recently started working on improving my style instead of just doodling for fun. I have a great idea for a manga, but I am an amateur artist and need help on improving my style. I love the anime/manga style and I'm trying to change my style to look more "animeish" you might say. This sketch is a simple sketch of two of my main characters in my manga "Charmed."
The pose if boring, but I figure that I really need to improve on proportion before I draw more dramatic poses. You advice is greatly appreciated. I hope to improve on my style and repost my picture inked and colored.

http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2011/12/Saiyagal85-charmed2-607x800-jpg_500.jpg?t=4efca9a5a3f31

Thanks in advance! I apologize for the crease in the middle. I accidentally dropped my sketchbook and the page folded. I sure wish it didn't show up.

http://www.mangatutorials.com/forum/images/smilies/cat/cat41.gif

AudriCantDance
12-29-2011, 01:33 PM
the anatomy for the guy is spot on in my opinion, the girl looks cute, but the skirt is a little drabby, shorten it just a little, (not too showy)just a bit above the knee, and add a little flowing curvy lines to it. her neck is kinda long but that is not too important. work on your hands a little more. Its a little tricky to get right, but use your own hands for reference
OVERALL AWESOME

Cloudy
12-29-2011, 08:50 PM
woo they are cute I'd like to see more before I can do any critique though :3

Saiyagal85
12-30-2011, 05:50 AM
Yes, Julia's neck is a little long and hands are tricky. I do agree that the skirt is drab. I'll look for some tutorials and tips on how to draw a realistic looking skirt. Thanks for your opinion. It always helps to have a second pair of eyes.


woo they are cute I'd like to see more before I can do any critique though :3
Thank you, but may I ask what you mean by "seeing more?"

I'll wait a few days, receive a few more opinions, and then I'll make some changes and upload the pic inked and colored.

nisaren
12-30-2011, 10:05 AM
Your drawings look pretty nice as they are. My first thought was that the girl looks like her head is pushed too far forward - almost as if her back has too much of a forward curve to it (hyperkyphosis if case you'd like to know the technical term). The guy's head looks better in its placement, but I still think it could be pushed back a little bit in the future. The hands aren't bad really, but they could be made bigger. The length of the hand should be roughly equivalent to the length of the face. At any rate, keep up the good work. :)

ClockHand
12-30-2011, 01:46 PM
Personally I think those draws are enough to make a story or comic. If you respect their style you can do a lot with them.
Now if you want to explore them further I would just recommend to work on the length of limbs and the shoulders position, and trying to give more volume to their bodies. Obviously this advice is only if you want to keep the style, if you don't you can always work the dimensions of their body parts.

Hamachi
12-31-2011, 06:13 PM
Did you make this pretty small? Just curious, because I think I see lined paper there. This is quite good actually, and the proportions and line weight variation are rather nice. I do want to see what you can accomplish on drawing paper at a larger size.

Gedeon
12-31-2011, 09:04 PM
AS a few of the people stated great anatomy. Id just like to say that the girls neck, arms/hands and head don't add up to the rest of the body. The neck goes off too much in the back of the head and the arms and hands are disproportional to the rest of the body. But the guy is pretty good. Well only his hand strikes me as a bit small. Good job! :D

Saiyagal85
01-01-2012, 12:56 AM
Did you make this pretty small? Just curious, because I think I see lined paper there. This is quite good actually, and the proportions and line weight variation are rather nice. I do want to see what you can accomplish on drawing paper at a larger size.

The lines are what I drew to help me with proportions. This is actually drawn on a normal sized 11X9 sketchbook paper. The body is said to be about 6 1/2 to 7 heads tall. The guy, Aidan, is about 7 heads tall and the girl, Julia, is supposed to be short so she is about 6-6 1/2 heads tall. However I used Aidan as a guide for Julia's height (the top of her head should be at his chin, not including her hair) and unfortunately I drew her head too big and it threw off her proportions. I may just erase and start over on her. Sorry Julia! LOL

Onion-chan
01-01-2012, 02:14 AM
Oh, my dad told me a way to draw hands :D ~he's such a smart a** at drawing~LOL. First draw five lines from the wrist and you draw the fingers, usually I draw circles/ovals for the fingers and they're usually 3 circles/ovals long. And thumbs are the only fingers that have a bit of freedom in moving :D or draw the way the hand should be on a piece of papaer and copy it after :P ( did that before and it worked :D)

Oh and about wrists theyre always aligned to the crotch...

SnowWhite
01-06-2012, 02:33 PM
I think Julia looks a bit uncomfortable... there's an evident bend to the knee on the left, which makes her center of balance seem odd bc her head is so far forward.
I think redrawing her is a good idea, but you should try fixing her errors first. That way you can get an idea as to what she's supposed to look like.
Maybe try using a blue or red pen or pencil to fix the mistakes. Trust me, this happens to me all the time--I'll finish drawing something, note the mistakes and then go to draw a better copy and end up making the same mistakes again. It really, really sucks :/

Good luck! And I realllyyy love your drawing style. It's so, well, soft and gentle! And more realistic, too. Sometimes the people are freakishly tall and it puts everything out of proportion. Yours is great!

@-'-,--

Saiyagal85
01-20-2012, 11:08 AM
Thanks everyone! I'll post the finished picture as soon as I am done with it. (I've got a lot of grading to catch up on before the winter break) I really appreciate everyone's advice and comments. I never liked my style, but aren't we our own worst critic. lol

Saiyagal85
03-12-2012, 01:09 PM
I must apologize that my former pic will not be finished because I messed up when I used ink on Aidan's mouth. (Aidan is the dude BTW) He ended up looking like the Joker. Very disappointing. I still took everyone's advice and greatly appreciate your input.

Here is a new picture that I've been working on that I would appreciate input on. http://th01.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/069/3/2/dragon_prince__sloppy_copy__by_saiyagal85-d4samq9.jpg

Things I have noticed. His hands are too small. The position of his arms may be off. His wings just don't look right. If anyone has suggestions for drawing nice, large dragon wings, then I would be very grateful.
Critiques and tips are both appreciated and thank you for taking the time to view my art work. :)

Rubisko
03-12-2012, 01:45 PM
http://images.wikia.com/starcraft/images/1/16/InfestedKerrigan_SC2_DevCine2.jpg
http://www.seaandsageaudubon.org/BatInformation/batsyumagrande.jpg

this should be good references for dragon wings

Good work overall, just try to plan ahead so that the whole character fits on the canvas. You might also want to check the position of the armpits and the overall anatomy of the male upper body; it's hard to pull of a squarish build, it creates very stiff poses.
:)

Joosh
03-12-2012, 04:05 PM
I think since Dragons are fictional you can draw the wings any way you want, theres no reference to base them off of....Because they dont exist...

But you can take a look at the structure/anatomy of wings of Animals like Rubisko posted. People must have based the wings off them way back in time or something.

Here are some more examples;
http://www.necrotales.com/graphics/tutorials/tut05_wings02.jpg
http://www.brown.edu/Departments/EEB/EML/images/wing.jpg
http://courses.washington.edu/chordate/453photos/skeleton_photos/bat_wing_new.jpg
Bat wing structures~

In my opinion Bat wings are as close as you'll get to dragon wings you've drawn and stuff like Skyrim. The key to making it look awesome is to make it look believable, too.

Blue_Dragon
03-14-2012, 02:35 AM
I'm not leaving a critique at the moment, since everyone's got some good advice here. But I did want to leave a bit of advice. I have had the ink thing happen to me a ton in the past--where I was trying to ink over the pencil, and it smeared or blotted or something. If you have a light box, you can trace over it without messing up the original (assuming your pens don't bleed, you can find ones that don't.) And if you're short on cash and don't mind the exercise, you can use a window--just tape the clean paper over the original using that tape that's removable (drafting tape or, cheaper the stuff for painting walls and keeping it off the trim, works fine.) Ooooorrrrrrr, if you have a glass table (I got a free one from a friend's dumpster :3) you can just put a lamp under it, and you've made your own light table. :3

I know that's lengthy, but I can't tell you how many drawings I ruined and got really frustrated about before I got a light box. It helped me take the original and make the improvements people suggested (or that I saw needed to be made.)

Hope this helps you!!!!

Saiyagal85
03-16-2012, 08:09 AM
Thank you Rubisko and Joosh for your critiques and Blue_Dragon for your inking advice! I think I've found the design for Daisuke's wings. Who knew an old Disney cartoon would come in handy.

http://www.disneyclips.com/imagesnewb3/imageslwrakr01/clipgol2.gif

Of course I'll just tweak the style a bit so that it looks like I want it. I am still open to suggestions about other things. Perhaps some advice on drawing a muscular male torso and arms. Also the position of the hands and arms are off. I'd like to work on those.

Bacon_Barbarian
03-16-2012, 08:43 AM
The hand holding the swords handle is very nice ... The arm as a whole could use some work. Try to do that with your arm. You can't. Or not very comfortably, anyway. If he's going to be grabbing his sword like that, his elbow should be in the air, coming out towards the audience.

Saiyagal85
03-26-2012, 10:24 AM
Thank you! While my Dragon Prince, Daisuke, is under construction. Could someone give me some input on my nameless knight?

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/083/5/7/sir_whatshisname_by_saiyagal85-d4trc2v.jpg

I probably shouldn't be posting this since I clearly got lazy on his cape, but whatever. Thanks in advance for your comments and advice. :3

Look at that! I actually colored this one! lol

Shadowsfade
03-26-2012, 12:32 PM
Your colouring is good :) My main critique is about the arms / hands - the hands seem a little small for his body size, and the arms a little short - although they're bent, so won't align 100% with this, elbows reach the hips, and hands mid thigh. Obv his arms are bent so wont be completely in this position, but they're not bent enough to be the length they currently are (if that makes sense)

Saiyagal Sensei
09-05-2012, 03:48 PM
Hey, it's still me, Saiyagal85. I couldn't log on to my old account, nor could I get a new password, so I just started another one. My old one can be deleted to save space or whatever. It doesn't matter to me. Anywho, I've got a picture that I want to ink with Manga Studio EX4.0 but I'd like some opinions before I try to ink it. Just look at the faces and upper bodies and tell me if there are any changes I should make before inking and coloring. Thanks for your advice. :3

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/247/c/f/charmed_characters_by_saiyagal85-d5dkb1v.jpg

Sunny
09-05-2012, 10:36 PM
I really like the bottom left one. The hair flows fairly well. My one main suggestion would be to give the collar and such a little volume, like bumps where it'd be like in real life, as well as making the tie area a little more round.

Demonfyre
09-06-2012, 06:51 PM
Those look awesome :D I love the hair of the second character ^_^ I think you made her neck slightly too long however :/

Saiyagal Sensei
09-17-2012, 10:33 PM
Thanks for your replies! Here is the same picture inked using Manga Studio EX4. I will work on coloring this picture and post it when it is complete. Please let me know if I should make any changes before I add color.

http://th08.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/265/6/e/charmed_characters_inked_by_saiyagal85-d5fkn2s.jpg

The features that I'd really appreciate some input on are:
Aidan (the male character at the top)
1) Do his eyes look larger than the female character's?
2) Does his hair look too unrealistic, as in does the part not look like it is resting on his skull?

Julia (The female in the middle)
1) Is her hair believable? Yes it is supposed to have a slightly unrealistic look, but I want it to look wrapped, not glued together.
2) Are her eyes too far apart?
3) Should I fix her collar?

Victor (The male character at the bottom)
1) Is the flow of his hair believable?
2) Are the eyes okay? It is sometimes hard to determine how to draw the eyes in a three quarter view when my references have different opinions.

These are just some things I've noticed.
Thanks again for your input. I've taken everyone's critiques into consideration and have greatly improved my work. :)

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/261/0/9/charmed_charas_inked_by_saiyagal85-d5f6tqw.jpg

BunnyVoid
09-21-2012, 02:17 AM
Hello there, i'm new here so this is probably the first time you'll see me post on your thread... I happen to take a glimpse of your work and honestly, your style reminds me a lot of my style in drawing some months back... here are my comments

Aidan - I think the eyes are fine because the proportion is fine. The good thing about manga eyes is that it gives us artist a lot of choices in terms of size, shape, and other variations. They also happen to characterize the drawing. Is Aidan your protagonist? His androgyny makes him look so. For the hair, I think it is a bit stiff... but maybe that's your style of inking... maybe try to make some clumps first before inking so it would not be too confusing. Aside from that, i think its fine because anime hair is liberal in terms of styling.

Julia
Yes it her hair is possible. maybe soften your lines a little bit. Try to be less edgy. Her eyes are fine too but a bit too symmetrical, but thats a good thing... For the clothing i think you need to add some volume in drawing fabric. I'm still learning to draw that as well so i can't really tell you how...

Victor
My comments in the previous drawings also applies here. add more volume. soften lineart. eyes and hair styling are fine, just adjust the lineart.

hope this is fine for you.
here are some good tutorials for clothing, they're by obi-quiet.deviantart.com. I'm still learning as well. This could help us a lot.

Shirts http://obi-quiet.deviantart.com/art/Clothing-Tips-and-Points-112610951?q=gallery%3Aobi-quiet%2F297646&qo=7
Pants http://obi-quiet.deviantart.com/art/Clothing-Tutorial-Part-2-Pants-104464745?q=gallery%3Aobi-quiet%2F297646&qo=10
Drapes http://obi-quiet.deviantart.com/art/Clothing-Tut-3-Hanging-Wrinkle-110043569?q=gallery%3Aobi-quiet%2F297646&qo=8
Gowns http://obi-quiet.deviantart.com/art/Clothing-Tutorial-4-115968517?q=gallery%3Aobi-quiet%2F297646&qo=6
Flowing Fabric http://obi-quiet.deviantart.com/art/Flying-Wrinkles-cloth-Tut-5-118059194?q=gallery%3Aobi-quiet%2F297646&qo=5


hope this is fine with you.

Saiyagal Sensei
11-23-2012, 10:12 AM
I'm still working on the last pic. Here is a pic I did as a birthday present. I like the look, but I would love any advice that could be given, particularly on shading.

The picture was drawn on paper. I scanned the picture into the computer. I inked and colored the picture using Manga Studio EX4. lol does he look familiar? (check my last drawing)

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/326/5/3/lights___camera____victor__by_saiyagal85-d5ltsh9.jpg

- - - Updated - - -

Oh, and Happy Thanksgiving!

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/327/a/4/happy_thanksgiving__by_saiyagal85-d5lxzc9.jpg

Demonfyre
11-23-2012, 10:18 AM
Rule, Britannia!

*cough*
Anyway... I think you need to add more shading on the right side and particularly around areas such as folds and the shadows cast by the hair clumps. You also haven't really added any shading onto his shirt either. To kinda illustrate my point and to help i've got this picture here with a similar light source;

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q599/Demonfyre1/photo_1_595.jpg

Look at some pictures of similar articles of clothing on Google, that will also help you see where the shadows are likely to be. Same for the highlights in his hair.

I will leave the rest for someone else

Gaff
11-23-2012, 12:01 PM
Just in addition to what Demofyre said, if you're only using two tones in your colours (one light, one dark), you'd be better off using a much darker shade in the shadowed areas. It'll give the image more contrast and generally make it stronger looking.

toast
11-23-2012, 10:21 PM
did you actually waste 300 bucks on such a limited program?

Celestial-Fox
11-24-2012, 01:19 AM
Hi, welcome to MT! You have some strong art that stands out from a lot of the newcomers! I can already tell that you're not afraid to change things up, like the style you draw ayes in, et cetera. That's good, and it shows versatility. I agree with Gaff and Demon about the coloring, though. You may find that using less saturation in your shadow tones may help out a little bit, just to break up the brightness of your color compositions. Perhaps you should consider only making one thing in each picture have a lot of saturation (to make it stand out) and tone everything else down a little bit, just to add visual interest?


did you actually waste 300 bucks on such a limited program?
Although it isn't the best thing out there, why say something like this to not only a new member, but someone who has clearly already made the investment?

toast
11-24-2012, 01:50 AM
Although it isn't the best thing out there, why say something like this to not only a new member, but someone who has clearly already made the investment?

Ok ok I came off a bit harsh.

But next time if you want to invest in a program, research other programs more as well. Photoshop would have been a much much much better choice (it's pretty much a standard for everything digital artist), or if you're tight on money, Paint Tool SAI (which is also a bit limited but has some fantastic lineart and colouring tool. and you could always download freeware along side it, like GIMP, which is essentially a free version of photoshop).

Saiyagal Sensei
11-24-2012, 09:13 PM
Thank you to those who gave critiques on my artwork. Even though I've had years of art classes, you don't learn everything that you want to learn. I'll continue to work on highlights and shadows in my future works.

To Toast: No I did NOT pay $300 for the program. I got it through Amazon for $90. I did not purchase the program for drawings, I bought it to help me create my manga (which is of course the purpose of the program). I'm only using it to ink and color my art as practice. To me it is easier to use than GIMP.

Midori-Midori
11-25-2012, 12:52 AM
Hi hi!
Nice job so far C:
Some things you should look out for are the placement of the ears, I think that they should be moved up a bit. I cant really give you a reference but you should take a look at the anatomy of the head, ears are usually alligned with eyebrows. Also practise hands, they seem a bit small compared to the head.
Good luck! I look forward to seeing more art~