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Sunny
12-19-2011, 12:25 PM
Honest question here: why do you like to debate? Do you just like to share knowledge, or feel triumph? What is your own logic behind it?

I've noticed that the smallest of things can bring up a lot of heated feelings. Most of the time, I sit back, and think, primarily because I don't always feel the need to waste my breath/energy on forums if something is really that explosive.

The way I figure it, I simply say my peace and leave it at that most of the time. I'm always up for a discussion, though, but I'm not particularly interested in the, "I'm right, you're wrong and that's all there is to it" sort of threads. I find hearing other people's views can bring insight and knowledge, so long as they are cited correctly.

So, are you the type of person that just likes to discuss, or are you more into proving your point and contending strongly? What's the difference to you? Or is there no difference at all? Is arguing just arguing? Or is it more about the feeling behind it?

Delphinus
12-19-2011, 12:37 PM
It helps me think through my ideas and acts as a litmus test for my opinions. If there's a strong argument that I find it difficult to respond to, then I either have to accept that argument or work out why it's wrong. I think it's healthy to have my opinions constantly challenged, because it avoids the sort of stagnation of ideas that you get in closed communities or internet hugboxes.

I'm also pretty competitive and enjoy winning debates, but only if the competition's strong. Defeating strong opponents is much more satisfying than beating weaker ones.

GunZet
12-19-2011, 01:09 PM
I don't really like to debate, so to speak. I just like to say whatever happens to be on my mind on that subject, and see what I can get out of people. It's amusing for the most part, but I stay out of other things, especially the ones that get proven over and over and over, AND OVER, and nobody seems to get it through their damned head.

Delphinus
12-19-2011, 01:25 PM
IN IMAGES, DEBATES I LIKE

http://s1.hubimg.com/u/300912_f520.jpg

DEBATES I DON'T LIKE (kodos vs. newcomer)

http://www.myfightdream.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/wrestling.jpg

GunZet
12-19-2011, 01:28 PM
Kodos vs. anyone

digitek
12-19-2011, 01:31 PM
If it's something that I actually care/know anything about/have an opinion on, I find debates fun. Its good to be challenged, and can make you think more about why you think your argument is the best, as well as opening up to things you might not have thought of before (on both sides of the argument), Sometimes I kinda take the opposite viewpoint to what I actually think just for teh lulz and also to see what other points are made.

ClockHand
12-19-2011, 03:18 PM
I like debates to have fun, if I'm trolling or what ever my only goal is to have fun with what the other person says or I say.

jubeh
12-19-2011, 03:41 PM
I like to DESTROY PEOPLE WHO STAND IN MY WAY.

But seriously I only ever debate stuff I care about which right now is really only game design. Yeah sometimes I'm basically smacking around people who don't have a chance but I usually am pretty sincere in that I want to discuss things.

Sylux
12-19-2011, 04:44 PM
I debate because I hope to one day achieve the insurmountably high level of perfectioned manipulation over word and phrase as my master has trained himself to have, and with ease at that on my behalf!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gTHpSdr4dl4/TlEJm_6lrSI/AAAAAAAAAP8/j5wLDp8DkJw/s1600/1282771951_6792_full.jpeg

Kodos
12-19-2011, 05:16 PM
Never give up, Grasshopper.

Sylux
12-19-2011, 05:17 PM
You are my inspiration! To the fullest extent I shall endure my rigorous training! For Orzammar!

Bacon_Barbarian
12-19-2011, 10:43 PM
Because it's fun?

Matt
12-19-2011, 11:23 PM
In a political, religious, or philosophical debate, it's because I want a) to understand the other side's opinion and b) I want the other side to understand my opinion. If I join a debate after reading both sides and agree and disagree with parts of both, I'll try to present the neutral opinion.
In debates about comic/game/story/movie design, I only ever debate to learn (more like just asking questions).

Those are the main reasons, and my others are very similar to Delph's. I'm never comfortable with my own opinions if I never analyze the other side because there's always a nagging feeling that I might be missing vital evidence that contradicts my side.

I'll back out of a debate very quickly if my opponent doesn't even want to hear my side, though. If s/he starts picking apart legitimate arguments and making strawman statements out of them or just picks one part of my argument to answer and ignores the rest, I decide that it's probably not worth continuing and each post I contribute is a few minutes I could be spending doing something constructive.

Afrobit
12-19-2011, 11:39 PM
Does making up debates with imaginary people in your head count?

Makes driving more bearable.

ClockHand
12-19-2011, 11:55 PM
Does making up debates with imaginary people in your head count?

Important question. Yeah It makes life "easier".

Inksprout
12-20-2011, 01:38 AM
I don't know that I really do like debating, at least not heated ones. I prefer 'discussions' where no one is really arguing. I guess the only reason I ever really get into a debate is because I don't like it when people have this attitude of "I'm right about everything and I'll take the hardline about this issue regardless of what anyone else thinks, I'll just repeat my arguement over and over" I always feel like I need to intervene just to say, hey, you're not the only one with a logical and valid opinion and there are some things you're not correct about. Particularly if they are flat out ignoring what other people are saying. I also like to say something if I notice someone with an opposing point is having trouble articulating it. I dunno if its helpful or just annoys everyone though :/

Fenn
12-20-2011, 11:44 AM
I debate to be proven wrong, basically. Every time I find myself on the losing end of a debate I end up with a great deal of newfound knowledge and insight. This is likely why I so often end up taking up a contrary position on so many topics; it's hard to debate when you agree, and I'm always looking at the other side of the argument.

I've probably learned more here than almost anywhere else but school simply because I've been pounded over and over again by various members here, but every time the defeat comes with a new perspective that I'll willingly trade for pride any day.

Celestial-Fox
12-20-2011, 05:45 PM
I discover myself only debating social justice-y stuff (cultural appropriation, rape culture, etc), so it looks like the reason why I debate is to make the minority voice heard. /shrug Obviously I step out if I'm not being heard though.

Never thought about it until now.

Sylux
12-20-2011, 05:47 PM
Sadomasochists itt.

Celestial-Fox
12-20-2011, 05:47 PM
Eh, not really.

Fenn
12-21-2011, 04:48 PM
Sadomasochists itt.

What does ITT mean? I see it everywhere...

Celestial-Fox
12-21-2011, 04:55 PM
In this thread.

Sunny
12-21-2011, 07:37 PM
I always like to challenge ideas myself. (Btw, this is response to the stuff on the first page.) However, I do most of that through my own research, though it is good to hear new ideas because they can bring a lot of insight. I really like to gain more knowledge and understanding, so being able to learn new things is absolutely wonderful for me.

Black_Shaggie
12-28-2011, 11:41 AM
I wouldn't say I like to debate as so much start a dialogue with others (even when they're debating me) to understand their point of view while freely expressing my on on any given subject. I feel that people usually find that some of the points they thought were facts were, in the very least, over-exaggerated & some unknown information on either side of the issue comes to light that gives (at least my mind) a clearer perspective the entire subject.

I usually leave a 'debate' more educated about the subject than I began.

Harvester_Of_Sorrow
12-30-2011, 07:27 PM
I like to find out why people believe in things I deem to be strange or unusual like religion, conspiracy theories, spiritualism, astrology etc, although debating about movies and music is always fun also. You debate to get a different point of view and to share yours. Anyone willing to debate is always someone with a healthy attitude. If you ever meet anyone who says 'This is what I believe and nobody can convince me otherwise' then their a fucking moron. Move on to the next one.

Gerzorz
01-02-2012, 03:49 PM
I assume I'd really like to debate, where I'd provide evidence and then they'd somehow find a way to refute my evidence and I'd find a way to refute their evidence and we go on refuting all night until it comes to a amazing climax of understanding, but every time I try to start a debate it ends up not being a debate, but a shouting match, where they get really mad because of my position and use their loudness as evidence to support themselves.

But yeah, debates would be nice.

SnowWhite
01-08-2012, 06:59 PM
Hmm, you all have such interesting views!
Well, I'd say that I like debating because when I know I'm right and they're wrong, I just get soo extremely excited. Idk why, I just feel so energetic I could burst out laughing. Weird, right? I guess I'm just an excitable person (:
However... if I know they're right, or if it's about their own views or knowledge, I like to just sit back and listen and then every once in a while make a comment or question. It's really very interesting, listening to people speak. Even if you can't hear them, their whole body tells a story too (:

Great question, Sunny!

Sylux
01-08-2012, 07:03 PM
Good luck winning here sis

SnowWhite
01-08-2012, 07:07 PM
I accept that challenge :cat_wahaha:

Celestial-Fox
01-08-2012, 07:15 PM
Haha, that's a dangerous motive for debate, but I'm interested in seeing how that plays out here.

Fenn
01-09-2012, 02:25 PM
I accept that challenge :cat_wahaha:

I get a mop...

SnowWhite
01-10-2012, 01:59 PM
*sigh*
I guess you guys just don't understand.
When I know I'm right, I always win *evil smile*

GunZet
01-10-2012, 03:21 PM
But is always being right, right?

Sylux
01-10-2012, 03:45 PM
No, we understand, you're just being really deranged and acting unnecessarily unhealthy.

Aether
01-11-2012, 08:16 AM
I like to debate because I can.

And I like crushing spirits. That's fun.

EDIT:
I accept that challenge :cat_wahaha:

Debate me. I will destroy you.

Sylux
01-11-2012, 08:21 AM
I will de-bate you okay here goes... Stop fishing so much

Aether
01-11-2012, 09:00 AM
Damn it. I've got nothing.