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Nara
12-14-2011, 10:30 AM
I'm sure everyone knows what 'moe' is. (Try to google 'moe' if you don't know what it is, rather than asking me or anyone else here!)
So, basically i like drawing 'moe' characters and of course want to improve my drawing skills using this style.

I was in manga school before (i quit after i reached mid-level), so maybe some of my works would look good or at least acceptable.
BUT! I didn't make this thread to show-off, because there are so many things that i haven't learned yet.

I know my own limit & i know i still have so much to learn.
In fact, your comments & critiques are greatly appreciated.

Here's some of my works i drew before i joined MT:
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/883/hno01.jpg
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/3299/hno02.jpg
http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/910/hno03.jpg
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4829/hno04.jpg
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/2688/hno05.jpg
These 2 works was made a few minutes before i made this post:
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3553/hn01.jpg[http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/1646/hn00.jpg
All links below:(Except for the 1st post)
12-15-2011 (http://www.mangatutorials.com/forum/showthread.php?1734-Nara-s-Art-Learning-Moe-Characters&p=60895&viewfull=1#post60895)
12-18-2011 (http://www.mangatutorials.com/forum/showthread.php?1734-Nara-s-Art-Learning-Moe-Characters&p=61461&viewfull=1#post61461)
12-20-2011 (http://www.mangatutorials.com/forum/showthread.php?1734-Nara-s-Art-Learning-Moe-Characters&p=62196&viewfull=1#post62196)

Sylux
12-14-2011, 04:14 PM
Jesus you're really good

BozeSG
12-14-2011, 04:43 PM
nice! you haven't actually rusted much as my newb eyes can see it, i'll bet that you will go back to your original skill and even better pretty soon!! :D

Gedeon
12-14-2011, 05:16 PM
Pretty awesome. Con't wait to see the un rusty versions when they come :D!!!

Cloudy
12-14-2011, 06:37 PM
Keep on practicing on your technique, soon you will be drawing fluently again

Nara
12-14-2011, 09:42 PM
Thanks for the support, everyone!

Though i don't know how long it will takes until i finally can draw at least like in the 2nd old picture (girl holding a guitar).

Maybe i will try to re-draw some of my old pictures & post it here later.

spidergoth
12-14-2011, 09:48 PM
Wow you're really good and if this is rusty for you then I can't wait to see what you do when you're back on track. You have a really cute style with very clean lines :cat_shiney: so cute

Sylux
12-14-2011, 09:49 PM
Redrawing old works is a great way to improve or build back up. I use it all the time when I reuse concept art over time. I've currently been working on one particular monster for 3 months, redrawing it occasionally or when I get a fresh idea on it.

Nara
12-15-2011, 07:48 AM
I know i posted that i would re-draw some of my old works today, but in the end i drew something new instead.

Here's what i doodled right after my last post:
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1989/dood00.jpg
Then i decided to draw something based on that doodle:
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2715/hn03.jpg
...yeah, i know that guy in the middle is ruining the picture.
I forgot how to draw male anatomy, maybe i need to re-read my tutorial book later.

Then, i decided to draw 2 facial expressions & a hand detail.
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5039/hn02.jpg
I have this feeling like it's not good enough just yet, you know like something is still missing...
Anyway, i'll always appreciate all critiques & comments from everyone.

Gedeon
12-15-2011, 04:05 PM
I've gotta say you've got some kick-ass shiny crisp lines :D One major flaw i saw was in one of your old works, the girl with a guitar has.....quite a strange hand. And in the newer ones, everything is pretty ok. The last one has a tad bit too long neck, and i think her thumb is too far away from the rest of the fingers. ANd about the male anatomy, it isn't that hard, but i sense that you like doing girls more then boys........owo

Nara
12-15-2011, 09:36 PM
I've gotta say you've got some kick-ass shiny crisp lines :D One major flaw i saw was in one of your old works, the girl with a guitar has.....quite a strange hand. And in the newer ones, everything is pretty ok. The last one has a tad bit too long neck, and i think her thumb is too far away from the rest of the fingers. ANd about the male anatomy, it isn't that hard, but i sense that you like doing girls more then boys........owo

Thanks...
Was that supposed to be good / bad thing?

Yeah, that one picture...
That's why i must re-draw it soon.

Now that you mentioned it...
Will try to re-draw it too, thanks!

Didn't see that one, which hand is it?
That 'girl's hand' or that 'only hand'?
...or is it both of them?

I used to draw boys & girls equally...
but yeah, now i prefer drawing girls since they are good to be looked at.
Maybe i should just learn to draw TRAP boys or Rev-TRAP girls instead?

Cloudy
12-15-2011, 11:30 PM
I heard you wanna draw curls, best idea is to look at reference pics.

http://www.drawinghowtodraw.com/drawing-lessons/drawing-faces-lessons/HowtoDrawCurlyHair_files/image006.jpg

http://www.drawinghowtodraw.com/drawing-lessons/drawing-faces-lessons/howtodraw-curlyhair-tutorials.html

Nara
12-16-2011, 09:43 AM
I had seen & even printed many characters with curl (they called it twirl, drill, etc) hairstyle for my past practices.
It's just i still can't draw it properly until now.
Anyway, that was a big help you gave me. Thanks!
Gonna try to draw curl hairstyle soon...

Maybe i will give the new female character a name after i draw 10 illustrations of her.
Might be as well give her personality too.

I haven't draw enough for today, so i'll just wait for tomorrow's drawing session before i scan & upload them all at once.

Joosh
12-16-2011, 05:51 PM
You didnt lose any skill as far as I know.

Nara
12-17-2011, 12:34 PM
It may seems that way to most of people; but if your last drawing was 3 years ago, you can tell that you've rusted your own drawing skill.

One of my ex-manga teacher taught me not to be easily satisfied with my current skill & result while i could still improve myself to be better for each seconds i used to practice manga art.

Not to brag, but i had reached intermediate level in my past manga class.
(didn't passed it yet, just reached it... i quit the class after a few months)

Since i was just a fresh-mid level, there are also many drawing techniques that i haven't tried / learned / mastered yet, like how to draw curls, shading, outlining, etc.

So, i'm quite sure that i still have a long way to go before i could share what i've learned to somebody else a.k.a becoming a manga teacher.

By the way, i didn't draw anything today either because of some...things happened.

Sylux
12-17-2011, 12:49 PM
Well being a comic book teacher or tutorialist isn't just about drawing. It's also about the practical application of storytelling, scriptwriting, composition, and foreshadowing, and how you show these things to other people so it sticks with them.

Nara
12-17-2011, 01:00 PM
Yeah, i noticed that one too.
That's why i need to become one manga creator myself and experience all the joy & hardship of it.

Kinda feels like i'm racing with time considering i'm already in my 20+ , since mostly young artists are the one who's accepted in manga industries.

But it's better be late & rejected, rather than not trying at all.

Sylux
12-17-2011, 01:12 PM
If you want to really get it big, bring some fresh style to your art. Lord knows that Japanese comics don't have enough Batmans or Spider-Girls. Try something like Hokuto no Ken or Deadpool.

Nara
12-18-2011, 04:39 AM
Can't disagree with that, but the problem is i have so much different style than those you mentioned above.

It will takes more time to change my current manga style to a new one, so i'll just improve what i've chosen in the first place.

Haven't think of any story seriously since i have so many drawing skills i need to learn, but i do made some short story & 4-panel manga when i was still in manga school.

So, talk about a little experience... yes i have some.

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Here's my next works:
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/4696/hn04.jpg
http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/2996/hn05.jpg
I actually drew her nose, though it seems disappeared after scanning.

The curl is not really good, isn't it?

It's much harder than i thought,
even after i saw those tutorials Cloudy-Chan gave me.

Haven't feel confident yet to draw a girl holding a guitar.
I do made the sketch, but that one picture will have to wait longer.

Nara
12-20-2011, 05:29 AM
Here's what i drew a few hours ago:

Emo Girl
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6714/hn06.jpg
Somehow i got the Emo Girl's clothes design from a certain dress up game.
It's a little bit embarrassing to tell it to everyone, since it's a girl's game.
But, it really gives me so many ideas about fashion.
Kunoichi
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4184/hn07.jpg
Well, what do you think?
Is it logical to draw her right hand like that?

Sylux
12-20-2011, 06:00 AM
Yeah, you haven't lost it. You're fantastic, to be honest.

Gedeon
12-20-2011, 02:52 PM
Well i cant say it not logical to draw her hand like that but i would draw it with the knuckles facing down. Seems like a more comfortable pose. Really can't say anything about anatomy, since the manner in which you do it is amazingly cute, but let's say that i can't leave her without something to pick at, ill say that you sometimes draw eyes a tad bit closer together. Like in the last two. The kunoichi looks great. But the first (emo girl) ( that is also great, but since i can't critique anything else ill be a nit picker) her eyes seem bigger and more close then they should be.


Ok thats it for me! Really great drawings and awesome style, looking forward to ee more of your works!