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ram
11-06-2011, 10:00 PM
Actually I'm just looking for Ideas for my manga with my character who has Eternal life and I'm having trouble to portray it's pernality very much right now.

But I guess this might be a good topic to start of a debate or something.

What theory can you make if someone were to gain Eternal Life? Whether wealthy or not.

Do you think he will be bored so much that he wants to die?

Or do you think he will just enjoy life cause there's so much you can do in the world?

Sylux
11-06-2011, 10:06 PM
He will never grow tired, for there is so much to be discovered and experienced. Even after he has done all, which would take hundreds of years, I'm sure he'd want to revisit at least something.

ClockHand
11-06-2011, 10:08 PM
I though one time in making a vampires story (not sparkly vampires), and my idea was basically that: Blood (probably Oxygen in blood) feeding helps the cellular regeneration (mitocondrial enhancement?) but its unable to retain old information (neurones and memory is constantly deleted and re-learned), so every information the vampire doesn't use (by example a language) is forgotten; reason why characters chose between living in the past (keeping objects as mementos of their life) or they forget and just live through a carpe diem.

As a effect of their constant memory lost, the characters can become very anti socials or very attached to people or objects. Well it was about "vampires", but they didn't have problems with the sun and neither were hyper strong, they just have a constant cell regeneration (I don't know how this could work with cancer and other cellular disease).

Inksprout
11-06-2011, 10:32 PM
Most of the time I see immortals portrayed as somewhat greedy, self absorbed characters and therefore they use their eternal life to be hedonistic, basically just satisfying all their desires and urges how ever they want.
I've always wondered what it would be like to tell a story with an immortal character who was transformed that way for the greater good, ie what if a famous and brilliant scientist like Einstein had been made immortal, would they have made more brilliant discoveries? Doctor who is somewhat this type of character, but since he was never human there is not as much psychological drama I guess.
I also like the idea of the transformation into an immortal being transforming that person's nature some how. I've seen it done with vampires, who are said to become cruel and vicious when transformed (in a lot of modern day vampire stories). Would it be possible to play out this transformation some other way? Would the being incredibly loving towards humans, or maybe scornful towards humans and protectors of the environment?

Psy
11-06-2011, 10:36 PM
Like clock said cells would have to be replaced constantly. UNLESS time has stopped for the person. If not they will still age and be subject to all matter of disease and aging. You are good as dead if your body just sits there even if the lights are on inside. You could add finding a way to aquire eternal youth to the story line. I do like the idea of some one with eternal life not being able to keep their memories forever because it seems more real that way.

GunZet
11-06-2011, 10:37 PM
Unless you're Zeus, having eternal life would pretty much suck. Especially if you decide to kill some people and get two life sentences..bummer.

Bacon_Barbarian
11-06-2011, 10:50 PM
That'd actually be very interesting ... What on earth would they be like when they escape?

Inksprout
11-06-2011, 10:54 PM
I read a short story online once about an immortal man, and it described his utter boredom as the whole planet died and eventually became a star. It was pretty cool

jubeh
11-06-2011, 10:58 PM
I wrote this ages ago while thinking about the subject.


It would be nice to have the time to do anything I wanted to. That’s the positive.

Here is the reality.

Life basically amounts to paying bills and trying to impress women — assuming you are a man. I can’t speak for women since I am not one, but it can’t be all that different. So I have to ask myself if that is something I want to do for an eternity. In life I keep working because maybe one day I’ll become rich and have all the time and money to do all the fantastic stuff I want to do. I can quit my shitty day job and travel the world, and never have to eat ramen again.

But really what’s going to happen is I’m going to work shit job after shit job until I have a heart attack because the only food I could afford came off of a dollar menu.

Found another positive. If I were immortal I could eat all the shitty food I wanted.

Though living the immortal life could be interesting assuming I didn’t give a shit about secrecy at all. I could offer my body up for experimentation and try to make a living that way. Perhaps I could do jobs nobody else could do because they were life threatening. Its possible just revealing I was immortal would make me famous on its own.

Who knows.

Celestial-Fox
11-07-2011, 12:32 AM
Have you read on transhumanism? You really should if you're interested in scientific immortality.

CypressDahlia
11-07-2011, 02:05 AM
I mean it depends what you mean by immortal. Like biologically immortal or like divine immortal, supernatural immortal, ROBOT IMMORTAL?! And also if it means they can't be killed. Like "immortal" as in they never die of old age, but they can still be killed.

ram
11-07-2011, 03:17 AM
Kinda like immortal of eternal youth or something.(one that can be killed)

Edit: well I guess the type that can't be killed of immortal is good as well.

Blue_Dragon
11-07-2011, 04:00 AM
If you were immortal, you'd have lots of options.

A) Try to kill all other immortals

There can be only one!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7n4r62j2tUw/THQexq5091I/AAAAAAAAATg/h-RvyRRBOSQ/s1600/highlander.jpg

or

B) Try to save the world and work along side the good Doc

He'll do ANYTHING
http://blogs.poz.com/mark/upload/Captain_Jack_Harkness.jpg

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/4/29/128855378460025887.jpg


or

C) Become obsessed with something in particular and continuously strive to achieve it (have no examples of this.)

or

D) Make yourself out to be a god and have all others worship you.

Or

E) Kill everyone just because...you never die?

http://www.blogcdn.com/blog.moviefone.com/media/2008/10/jason-(2).jpg

Or star in any infomercial at all to do with the golden oldies

http://blogs.tvland.com/collectiblog/files/2010/12/12_31_dick_clark_74258273.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_GxWMrsZxLqw/TR7FsI685YI/AAAAAAAAAD8/mH7PTnch5Ws/s1600/dick+clark.jpg

He's barely aged!!! He's gotta be immortal!

GunZet
11-07-2011, 05:02 AM
Or, you know. There's this kind of immortal.
http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/heroes-cheerleader-dp.jpg

Although she was only useful just because there's bad guys with powers too. Otherwise it'd be incredibly boring.

corastaur
11-07-2011, 02:07 PM
5 reasons immortality would be worse than death (http://www.cracked.com/article_18708_5-reasons-immortality-would-be-worse-than-death.html) curtesy of cracked.com. enjoy :)

ClockHand
11-07-2011, 02:26 PM
In Emanon (a manga) the character is not immortal per se, but his memory and personality is. She have a memory of everything she have lived, but every time she has her first daughter, is the daughter the one that keep the memories, and the mother don't. So Emanon is always the daughter, ones she have a daughter she stop being Emanon and her daughter takes her place.

The freaky part is that she have memories from the cellular moments (when everything was bacterias and cells).

Hamachi
11-07-2011, 03:48 PM
Watch Baccano :P

BozeSG
11-07-2011, 04:11 PM
^this.

also, i like the type of immortality where you can just finish whatever you like and then take your life...:P

anyway, my main manga story relates a bit to immortality so i've given it some thought before and i came to the conclusion that getting old doesn't necessarily mean that your personality changes and you begin to become wiser/weirder just because of aging. personality and way of thinking changes with the amount of stuff a person has learned in his life, for example a 15 year old that's gone through hard things like war, dictatorship and unfairness might have a much more open and wiser personality than a cranky 90 year old who's been working in an office all his life (this might be familiar for some people who look at others their age and feel like they are pretty naive compared to themselves).
so my point about this is that you shouldn't focus on the number of days the character has lived, think about what he has gone through in his life and base his personality on that instead.