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snowb400
10-16-2011, 01:30 PM
Hey guys, I feel I've come a long way from disproportionate attempts at Kakashi drawings, but since I still have much to learn, imma start a critique thread.:cat_nyaa: I know this one's terrible, and it's my first attempt at art with a tablet, but... at least I actually put my tablet to use for once! :monkey_hmm:
Here it is.
http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2011/10/snowb400-arrow-guy-jpg_500.jpg?t=4e9b149644552

trilokcool3
10-16-2011, 02:28 PM
its better if u make sketch first. Have you visited GB yet , i recomend you visit GROUPBOARD once. You still need to work mor on anatomy, poses etc. I strongly recommend you to do some fanarts too.

SuperKasey
10-16-2011, 03:16 PM
Yay tablet!

Like tri said I think it would help you to map out a sketch and some more detailed guidelines while drawing. They help map out proportions and muscle placement before you lay down parts of the final drawing. Don't be afraid to get sketchy because you can just erase them later when you figure out exactly what it is you want.

This will also help with when you draw the clothing on later. Right now it kinda looks like his clothes are sticking to him and defying physics in places. Clothing should drape the body and flow with it. Dig up some ref photos and study how clothes look on a body, where they crease and fold and how they change shape when the body moves.

snowb400
10-17-2011, 07:52 PM
Ok, and what exactly is a fanart? Also, I did do a sketch, sorta. Not a ball and cylinder one, which I should, but...

SuperKasey
10-18-2011, 12:28 PM
Fanart is when you draw characters from a book/cartoon/anime/game/tvshow/movie that you're a fan of. It does help out a little since you'll be looking up reference pictures of them (nine times out of ten) and getting an outside taste of character design. It's up to you though. Some people hate the stuff.

snowb400
10-18-2011, 04:39 PM
I've done some of naruto, shikamaru, gon, and kakashi.

Gedeon
10-18-2011, 05:10 PM
Well that, but when you do a loads of it its like practicing. If you draw some characters from a pic you'll get to know the poses, shapes and tricks on how to make something look good. So its like hiring a model for practicing figure drawing, but without the hiring/paying part.

snowb400
11-01-2011, 03:18 PM
I have a new drawing, (black and white), but the power's out:cat_tantrum:, so you can critique this one instead. I also have a colored one but I can't figure out how to shade it.:cat_panic: How do you usually shade? http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2011/10/snowb400-22-assassin-jpg_500.jpg?t=4eb045d709481

SuperKasey
11-02-2011, 02:43 PM
There's two ways I go about shading. I either start out with a value sketch where I get my basic shapes laid out on a grey bg then flesh in my darks first and lights after. With this method you work from big blocks of value to small details. After that's done I will lay my colors down on an overlay layer and then do a little actual painting to refine things.

OR, I start with my lineart and flat colors. Then I start laying down my darks with darker complimentary COLORS. NEVER black/grey or white ever ever ever ever! Got that? Black and white shading on colors = bad D:< After I'm satisfied with my darks I throw in my lights and add a small handful of highlights very last.

With this picture if you're planning to stay black and white I would use the value sketch method.

HowToDrawItAll
11-02-2011, 05:27 PM
Hey guys, I feel I've come a long way from disproportionate attempts at Kakashi drawings, but since I still have much to learn, imma start a critique thread.:cat_nyaa: I know this one's terrible, and it's my first attempt at art with a tablet, but... at least I actually put my tablet to use for once! :monkey_hmm:
Here it is.
http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2011/10/snowb400-arrow-guy-jpg_500.jpg?t=4e9b149644552

Man I dont want to just plug my site all over these forums. The best thing to learn is some basic anatomical structure for cartooning. This will help you get all your proportions correct. That is the best place to start. I wrote a step-by-step tutorial today on how to draw Naruto....mods dont get mad at me but this is perfect for snowb400

http://howtodrawitall.com/how-to-draw-naruto/

Sylux
11-02-2011, 06:16 PM
It doesn't even tell him about muscle structure and arm and leg forms. You know, the beer glass for the forearm and shin and cups for the leg and arm? The cylinders for dynamics? All these simple things you omit, yet they are what he truly needs.

HowToDrawItAll
11-02-2011, 06:31 PM
It doesn't even tell him about muscle structure and arm and leg forms. You know, the beer glass for the forearm and shin and cups for the leg and arm? The cylinders for dynamics? All these simple things you omit, yet they are what he truly needs.

I dont disagree that he will need to learn a lot more but it is a start. I can explain the human body in one simple tutorial but this will help him.

Sylux
11-02-2011, 06:56 PM
Do an anatomy tutorial! Overload his brain with information, make him want to constantly refer to your tutorial for all his drawings!

HowToDrawItAll
11-04-2011, 03:22 AM
It doesn't even tell him about muscle structure and arm and leg forms. You know, the beer glass for the forearm and shin and cups for the leg and arm? The cylinders for dynamics? All these simple things you omit, yet they are what he truly needs.

So, i took your advice and started a tutorial series on my site to explain the structure and proportions and manga figures so everyone can learn how to draw manga. I will be adding more and more tutorials on how to draw manga.

HowToDrawItAll
11-04-2011, 03:24 AM
Hey guys, I feel I've come a long way from disproportionate attempts at Kakashi drawings, but since I still have much to learn, imma start a critique thread.:cat_nyaa: I know this one's terrible, and it's my first attempt at art with a tablet, but... at least I actually put my tablet to use for once! :monkey_hmm:
Here it is.
http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2011/10/snowb400-arrow-guy-jpg_500.jpg?t=4e9b149644552


Im starting a series of tutorials on my site for this issue. I wrote this for you. I will be adding more and more tutorials on how to draw manga.

http://howtodrawitall.com/how-to-draw-manga-the-skeleton-and-proportions/

trilokcool3
11-04-2011, 04:28 AM
hey GO SLOW NO NEED TO RUSH....just learn to walk before you RUN....
go through easy and basic tutorials....... JUST FOLLOW SIMPLE WORDS WHAT WE SAY TO YOU........AND YES SO FAR WHAT WE SAID TO YOU JST PRACTICE THAT........,...
AND YES IF YOU WANNA DO SOME fanarts DO IT.....(not neccessarily required, but HELPFUL)
but this is how i got improved a little bit.....

Sylux
11-05-2011, 08:35 PM
Im starting a series of tutorials on my site for this issue. I wrote this for you. I will be adding more and more tutorials on how to draw manga.

http://howtodrawitall.com/how-to-draw-manga-the-skeleton-and-proportions/

Nice! This oughta help him!

snowb400
11-18-2011, 07:30 PM
I invalidate your point with better proportioned drawing.
http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2011/11/snowb400-23-jpg-3525_500.jpg

Blue_Dragon
11-19-2011, 12:48 AM
You are definitely showing improvement! I like that you are listening to people's critiques--it's reflected in your work.

Things I like:

You're putting in detail on his weapons and armor.
I also like how creative you've been with character design--he's go personality.

Keep at it:
You're doing well, so keep working at the body proportions. The back of his head should be a rounded a bit more, and curve in then move out. I'm posting this just to give an idea (hope it helps.)

http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/frantysek/frantysek0908/frantysek090800001/5341276-attractive-male-body-builder-demonstrating-contest-pose-isolated-on-white-background.jpg

Backside:

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumblarge_132/11744281968z1742.jpg

You're doing good! Keep up with the practice! :3

darkmousysminion
11-19-2011, 04:43 AM
I can tell you have a creative spirit and an eye for detail. That is a very, very wonderful attribute to have because it will make it easier for you to improve later on.

For now though, as you've probably been buried in comments about this already, what you need to work on is anatomy. Anatomy is SOOOO important to drawing humans and...well...anything really. You need to know how stuff fits together before you can draw a complete structure, right?

Anatomy can take years to learn and you will ALWAYS be able to improve. Looking at reference and studying real-life humans is one of the best ways to learn and draw anatomy accurately. Research warriors and muscle-y men and draw from reference. You can add the neat detail and such later but for now you need a base to work off of.

You can do it :)

snowb400
11-19-2011, 10:01 AM
@everyone Um, thanks for the compliments such as improving from critiques, but the thing is... I haven't used this thread for a while (since I uploaded my first few drawings) and did that dwarf drawing before I saw any of these critiques.

Blue_Dragon
11-19-2011, 06:33 PM
Even so, I'm assuming you drew the dwarf after the previous ones? If you did, then there was improvement: you learned something from the previous drawings. Maybe not from our critiques per say. If not...well, people know you're still working on it, or you would not have uploaded an image. :)

HowToDrawItAll
11-19-2011, 11:58 PM
I worked on a few tutorials on how to draw manga bodies. I am not going to list them all here but check this one out..this is a tutorial on how to draw a muscular male.

http://howtodrawitall.com/how-to-draw-manga-bodies-muscular-man/