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Shuro
09-12-2011, 05:32 AM
Okay, as you might have seen in my 'Lets Exercise' post. I need some help on getting back into drawing.

Anywho, just curious. What are some basic stuff I will need, besides a sketch pad and pencils. I know that is pretty basic, but I am looking for stuff like on what type of pencils and what type of sketch paper. Stuff like that.

I want to buy the stuff in whole, so I can get started all at once.

So any help would be great.

I am sort of on a budget, dealing with finance problems, so I say my limit is like $100-150.

ram
09-12-2011, 06:17 AM
I think this was explained a lot of times already.

but I guess I would just recommend what I used to use.
I would go for hb pencil, and a little darker pencil like 4b.

and a pointing pen. I use 0.4, although it depends on the brand of the pen

tagYURIT
09-12-2011, 07:45 AM
. .I use an #2 mongol pencil for sketching. .and a 0.5 fabrecastell black or blue for the inking process. . .^^. .its cool once you get the hang of it. .but if you're new to the art. .simple hb and 2b pencils will do. .^^hb for sketch ..2b for outline. .maybe use 4b for the shades^^

Shuro
09-12-2011, 12:08 PM
Okay. Thanks guys, and yeah I am sure it has been explained. Though I was kind of lazy to really search. And just wanted to see if anything new, that I should pick up.

GunZet
09-12-2011, 12:08 PM
HB, 6B, 2B, maybe an 8B, and maybe an Ebony. Graphite pencils.
Get some charcoal pencils too if you can, those are pretty fun actually.
Buy the pencils single, packs cost more.
Get an Art Gum eraser and a good old white eraser. Kneadable erasers suck, but they make for good fun.
Should cost about $10 for all of that, maybe even less, assuming you don't already have a sketchpad.
Google around for art stores near you and check out their prices.

Shuro
09-12-2011, 12:19 PM
Alright. I am not sure what art stores might be around me, but it can't hurt to look.

Okay, so this might be a novice question, but I guess I am a novice. xD So what does each pencil, that you mention, do, that the others don't? Same for the erasers. I think you mean, those big chunky erasers you see in art class, but I am not exactly sure.

Ironic I was put in art class 2 times in a row, even though I didn't consider myself that good, in high school. And then even put in Art 2. So I guess the teachers saw some kind of artisticness(I know this isn't a word) in me. xD

GunZet
09-12-2011, 01:10 PM
Well, the pencil names mean they range in hardness which goes as following:

Hardest 9H-H
Medium F-8B
Softest HB-9B

B means Black
H means Hard
F is finepoint

So you usually want to use a range of the medium pencils. So stay in the B's if you draw rough.
http://www.learntoart.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/pencil-hardness-scale-1023x200.jpg


As for the erasers. Here's some info from wiki.

http://www.hearlihy.com/sharedimages/product/Large/L_GumEraser137E.jpg
Art Gum

Another eraser type that is popular with artists is the art gum eraser, made of gooey, coarse rubber. It is especially suited to removing large areas, and it does not damage the paper. However, they are not very precise. Gum erasers tend to crumble as they are used, so this type leaves a lot of eraser residue. This "eraser dust" must then be brushed away with care, as the eraser particles can leave marks on the paper. Many artists use a tooth brush to sweep away the loose eraser residue. Art gum erasers are commonly tan or brown.

http://www.concordsupplies.com/_webcache/pap70626_1_1.jpg
White erasers (vinyl)

Soft vinyl has a plastic-like texture and erases more cleanly than standard pink erasers. They are somewhat softer and non-abrasive, making them less likely to damage canvas or paper. They are prone to cause smearing when erasing large areas or dark marks, so these erasers are more frequently used for erasing light marks and precision erasing. Engineers favor this type of eraser for work on technical drawings due to their gentleness on paper. Vinyl erasers are commonly white.

Celestial-Fox
09-12-2011, 01:18 PM
I agree with Gunz on everything. The only other things I can suggest are tortillions for blending, and that's about it.

I still don't agree that such a wide range of pencils should be used to start out with, because many newer artists use the hardnesses as a crutch and don't learn about pressure control. Very easily, all of your artistic needs can be accomplished with a 9B, HB, and 4H. Even then, the 4H and 9B would only be used for detail elements (or in the 9B's case, large expanses of black).

Shuro
09-12-2011, 01:24 PM
Oh okay. I thought you meant the big eraser for the white one.

Anywho, thanks for the info. I will definitely keep that in mind when going shopping. Btw. Should I buy just any sketch pad or do you think I should buy a specific one that might fit my needs?

Hi Celestial Fox. Long time, no see.

Anywho, my first question for you. What is Tortillions. I would look it up, but I figured I would get better info from an artist than a wiki.

So you are saying it isn't good to use the medium type, pencils and instead go for the hardest?

Still kind of confused now. xD

GunZet
09-12-2011, 01:29 PM
Tortillion is a fancy word for a rolled up stick of paper for blending lol. Basically, all you really need to get started is probably a lead pencil that uses 0.6-0.7 lead, and a standard HB#2 school pencil. Should be just fine haha.

Also a sketchpad that has 'sketch' paper should be alright. That's what I use. There's also multimedia paper and newsprint, but sketch is good all around.

edit: you don't really need specifically a tortillion for blending. Use toilet paper, paper towels, a chamois if you want.

Shuro
09-12-2011, 01:33 PM
Lol. Had to ask if there was any specific sketch book, you know how there is like different computers. They all get the job done, but there is always that brand that is slightly better. But okay. So basically get me a set of HB #2 and some 0.6-0.7 Lead pencils.

I did notice, when I was drawing before, that I tend to be a little rough. I do want to practice on my pressure, but I guess I can do that a little later. First I need to practice my anatomy or maybe just doing circles, because I have always had a hard time with the whole, making a circle without it looking weird. xD But eh, practice makes perfect. I don't expect to be good in a night.

Edit:

My friend recommended this site for art supplies. Has anyone purchase from this site before?

http://search.utrechtart.com//index?D=sketchbook&Nty=1&lc=0&N=0&Dk=0&Ntt=sketchbook&cnt=0&loc=topnav

Celestial-Fox
09-13-2011, 09:41 PM
You can practice pressure with your HB. Just be gentle. It's really difficult at first, but it comes in time.

And I'm not sure about that site, but I get my online supplies from DickBlick.com.

Hamachi
09-15-2011, 08:05 AM
I've heard some teachers/authors talk about materials that may help you if you really really consider yourself a beginner. Try using just an EE pencil when starting out to learn the full range of tones. On that same note, charcoal and grease pencils also are good in helping you learn what sketching means, and in encouraging arm movement and restatement.

Regarding sketch paper, your best bet with standard quality stuff would probably be something in the Strathmore series (My college art department make that standard-issue) but like Gunzet said, any cheap sketch paper would be fine to practice with. So buy a big Strathmore and then just some cheap sketchpad. The huge ones are the best - you want to draw big when you practice.

Also, sketchbooks are golden and you should carry one with you wherever you go. Seriously, those things are awesome.