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Chuchu
07-21-2011, 10:21 PM
I don't know if you remember me, I was "WannabeMangaka" on the old forums, you know, the girl with that disgraceful artwork?:cat_cryincorner:

Well, I wasn't just sitting around. Thanks to your support and helpful criticism, I was able to improve and return to the place where my long struggle first began. :D

I still have a long way to go, but I'm having fun with it~

First, here's examples of how I drew when I first joined MT and the first months after leaving.
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/058/e/6/sam_griffin_oc_drawing_request_by_chuchu_chama-d3akjuf.jpg
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/002/b/4/ichihime_kiss_by_chuchu_chama-d369tre.jpg
http://th08.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2011/079/5/a/getting_ready_for_school____by_chuchu_chama-d3c2okt.jpg
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/073/0/b/contest_entry_1_by_chuchu_chama-d3bmx8c.jpg

And now all my recent stuff (last 5-6 months)

Did this yesterday morning, it's my most recent picture.
http://th07.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2011/201/8/c/diva_by_chuchu_chama-d412tbd.jpg
http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/195/6/0/bad_religion_practice_by_chuchu_chama-d3rcylr.jpg

And some of my colored artwork
http://th09.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/140/6/2/ellis_the_goddess_by_chuchu_chama-d3gr0fi.jpg
http://th03.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2011/175/e/0/comin___to_get_ya_by_chuchu_chama-d3juxcq.png
http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/169/a/f/when_i__m_with_you____by_chuchu_chama-d3j6k49.jpg
http://th01.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2011/190/1/5/with_u_by_chuchu_chama-d3lkchp.jpg
http://th07.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2011/194/7/3/this_magical_moment____by_chuchu_chama-d3pc7xj.jpg


Update for 2012~




-Sorry it's blue and sideways, I used it for a background earlier. >.<




http://mkkibousha.doomby.com/medias/album/7.jpg?fx=r_600_600




-This is apart of a poster I'm drawing for my moms birthday, any advice on what I can do to fix it?
http://mkkibousha.doomby.com/medias/album/2.jpg?fx=r_600_600
As always, please speak your mind. I love criticism; actually I live off of it, lol. So fire away~

Jahkofhearts
07-24-2011, 04:11 AM
Hey! the colouring is nice and your lines are good, but one note of advice is to try working your own characters? it's good to see your starting to discover tones :)
the last one of Ichigo and Orihime is good with the foreshortening but I think the faces are a bit....
try looking at other styles? or study a bit of anatomy (it' s a big step but you should have a crack at it!)

other than that keep up the good work!

TundraKnight
07-25-2011, 01:39 AM
For the last colored picture, the couple standing in the field. For some reason to me the girl's left breast looks much larger than the right.

I love the angel picture, I like wings but have such a terribly hard time drawing them, I make mine look so generic and bland :(

The fact you are having fun with drawing is the best part and what'll keep you motivated. Thank you for putting some before and after pics. It can be very encouring to see how someone's artwork has evolved. Keep up the great work.

ram
07-25-2011, 11:14 AM
:cat_panic:arrrhhhhgggg!!! i see a lot of improvement chart that people make here on mt.! and i don't want me to take years just to improve something like that!

i refuse to take much time to improve! you guys get to do bankai in 10 years but i will find a shortcut like ichigo did!

anyway for the crit: make sure you keep this in your mind

3 types of folds(atleast in ramiel's book):cat_wahaha:

1.fold affected by gravity
2.fold affected by tight parts
3.fold affected by movement(twists in the body)

you just do your fold randomly and just do it to make it look of whatever your liking.

i actually commented something like this to boz and i hate explaining too much again.

so here i'm just gonna qoute it.



http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee388/skyramiel/kick21.jpg?t=1311242739

first i don't really know what the pose of this guy suppose to be so i just do what is the most possible thing i could make..

now here comes the real thing, hope you pay attention
on the bottom picture i made a cylinder of some sort, one is turn to the right and one is turn to the left and one is just neutral.
you can think of this as the basic guidelines for the clothing, if it's turn from the right then the clothing is turn as well. if i remember correctly in anatomy muscles is almost similar to this.(too bad i didn't study it)
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee388/skyramiel/kick22.jpg?t=1311242739
now you should think: what part of the body is being turn? leg? body? arm and so on. and you can make some guidelines on where it should be placed.
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee388/skyramiel/kick23.jpg?t=1311242738
note that i don't do this and don't make some lines before doing it.(it's too much work and i hate too much work)
so anyway you should take consideration where the tight parts as well and fold are actually affected by that as well.. how you think of how it was affected is up to you.

other folds are affected by tight parts, and other fold are affected by the movement. the best way to understand this is to look for real life, talk to your friends and ignore what their saying and just focus on what fold their clothes have.(just don't do it to girls or you might be mistaken as a pervert, hey wait! it's much worse if you get mistaken for a pervert from guys)

anyway hope this helps, i got this info from a drawing book, although it's not the drawing book i gave you.

i just like to add that folds differ from what type of clothing he/she wearing. leather, plastic yadda yadda. and ofcourse if the shirt is tack-in in what i did here, it's still different if it's not.



anyway i messed up with the turning and forgot that this is back view, but i hope you get the point.

Chuchu
07-26-2011, 11:57 PM
Hey! the colouring is nice and your lines are good, but one note of advice is to try working your own characters? it's good to see your starting to discover tones :)
the last one of Ichigo and Orihime is good with the foreshortening but I think the faces are a bit....
try looking at other styles? or study a bit of anatomy (it' s a big step but you should have a crack at it!)

other than that keep up the good work!

Thanks for the advice! Faces are my weak spot for some reason, but I'm working on it. And I'll definitely draw more of my own characters. :D


For the last colored picture, the couple standing in the field. For some reason to me the girl's left breast looks much larger than the right.

I love the angel picture, I like wings but have such a terribly hard time drawing them, I make mine look so generic and bland :(

The fact you are having fun with drawing is the best part and what'll keep you motivated. Thank you for putting some before and after pics. It can be very encouring to see how someone's artwork has evolved. Keep up the great work.

Haha, yep! Everyone I showed it to pointed out the breast problem to me, but I swear I'll master them one day! XD
And thanks, the angel is one of my favorites. It was the first time I've ever had to draw wings, so I didn't know if they looked awkward or not.


:cat_panic:arrrhhhhgggg!!! i see a lot of improvement chart that people make here on mt.! and i don't want me to take years just to improve something like that!

i refuse to take much time to improve! you guys get to do bankai in 10 years but i will find a shortcut like ichigo did!

anyway for the crit: make sure you keep this in your mind

3 types of folds(atleast in ramiel's book):cat_wahaha:

1.fold affected by gravity
2.fold affected by tight parts
3.fold affected by movement(twists in the body)

you just do your fold randomly and just do it to make it look of whatever your liking.

i actually commented something like this to boz and i hate explaining too much again.

so here i'm just gonna qoute it.



anyway i messed up with the turning and forgot that this is back view, but i hope you get the point.

Thanks so much for posting that!!! I'll remember that! *Loves tutorials on folds* :cat_gleam:

Leannah
09-08-2011, 09:50 AM
The last ones are really cute but you messed up the eyes on the blonde girl (2nd drawing) and your first girl has uneven boobs and looks a bit too masculine but I guess it may be the character's style

Chuchu
02-15-2012, 06:13 PM
The last ones are really cute but you messed up the eyes on the blonde girl (2nd drawing) and your first girl has uneven boobs and looks a bit too masculine but I guess it may be the character's style

Thanks for the critique~ I'm working on improving on those things!

Update for 2012~

-Sorry it's blue and sideways, I used it for a background earlier. >.<

http://mkkibousha.doomby.com/medias/album/7.jpg?fx=r_600_600

-This is apart of a poster I'm drawing for my moms birthday, any advice on what I can do to fix it?
http://mkkibousha.doomby.com/medias/album/2.jpg?fx=r_600_600

Mr_Liebe
02-15-2012, 07:46 PM
Wow, quite an improvement, I applaud your effort to perservere after leaving. I myself, well I sadly gave up when I left. I could learn quite a bit from you when it comes to preseverence.

Great work on the coloring, however the others have covered all that was not so good about your work, but I still think you've improved nicely, nice job, and keep it up.

Chuchu
02-24-2012, 08:06 PM
Wow, quite an improvement, I applaud your effort to perservere after leaving. I myself, well I sadly gave up when I left. I could learn quite a bit from you when it comes to preseverence.

Great work on the coloring, however the others have covered all that was not so good about your work, but I still think you've improved nicely, nice job, and keep it up.

Thanks, hearing that has really motivated me! It sometimes feels like I'm not improving at all, but I'll keep trying!

Anyway, posting something else while I'm online. The eyes are too far apart and the lips are a little slanted in this one, are there any other things I should work on guys?

http://www.mangatutorials.com/file/pic/photo/2012/02/Chuchu-manga-character_500.jpg?t=4f4833339b8cd

Blue_Dragon
02-25-2012, 04:14 AM
I really like that blue one you're working on for your Mum :3 But I'm not gonna critique it. :P

The last one you posted is really awesome! I love how well you color--I really suck with coloring things. You could give me a few pointers.

One thing I want to point out, is that I think her eyes are a little too far apart. It could just be the style (which is a very unique, and I like it) but I think you might move that left eye (our right) a little closer into the face. I could be wrong, but that's what I'd suggest.

I love the braids! And I love how you're not afraid of detail--plus you do it well! Uber cool :)

edit: duuurrr....I just actually read your post, and saw you mentioned the eyes. I'm stupid, sorry! Please forgive me.

Sylux
02-25-2012, 10:28 AM
Not too fond of Birichuu but it looks good and I'd like to see a comic made by you.

Chuchu
03-13-2012, 03:05 PM
@Blackdragon thanks for the review (and you're not stupid, it's a common thing we all do!)XD
I'm afraid I'm in no position to give anyone pointers on coloring, I use to do it digitally but that photo was colored by hand and I'm in need of good tutorials so I cam improve!

@Sylux Ooh, thanks. I'm almost done with a short doujin for a friends birthday, maybe I'll post it here for some critiques.

Here's a panel from that said doujin, I haven't added tones or backgrounds yet. Hopefully the full page will be posted soon.
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/515/ellis.jpg

It's my brothers b-day today! :cat_muuu: So I made him a poster with the main characters of his manga. :3 He had a lot to say about it (crit-wise, low boobs! XD) I'm hoping it matches with you guys.

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1727/birthiu.jpg

Blue_Dragon
03-14-2012, 02:54 AM
Hey-o :3

Nice picture. I really like the set up and how comfortable every is with each other. The colors are nice, too :3 As always!

I think another thing (besides her breasteses) with the chick in the pink kimono is her waste. To me is seems a little long. Maybe shorten it up a bit. The guy right above her seems to have a really long right arm, too.

I like detail you put in the clothing :3

Chuchu
03-19-2012, 07:15 PM
haha yeah, I pretty much screwed the anatomy up everywhere in that one. XD Thanks for the input, I'll be sure to put more effort into things like that.

New drawing, this time of myself~ (So what I "exaggerated" some things, sue me.) :p

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/6800/79087527.jpg

I wanted to post it as a sketch first, but some things came up and before I realized it I'd inking and colored it one night. I noticed a few things around the neck and eyes, is there anything else amiss?

Looking at other artists on MT is fun and a little depressing~ I don't feel like I've found my "style" yet. >o<

ClockHand
03-19-2012, 07:25 PM
I see what you did in the mouth; I would suggest to not use such strong lines in around the lips because it fight against the line in the mouth.

I would also want to see the same shading you did in the body, in the hair. A continuity in the use of the shading.

Overally I like the shading and the way you painted it (the hair is kinda a step back compared with how everything else looks).

Chuchu
03-19-2012, 08:19 PM
I see what you did in the mouth; I would suggest to not use such strong lines in around the lips because it fight against the line in the mouth.

I would also want to see the same shading you did in the body, in the hair. A continuity in the use of the shading.

Overally I like the shading and the way you painted it (the hair is kinda a step back compared with how everything else looks).

Thanks for the advice. Looking back I see the things you pointed out. I never really considered that bit about the lip, so thanks for pointing that out to me. And I admit when it came time to shade the hair I was at a loss and it came out very dull looking.
Anyway, thanks again and I'll work on the things you mentioned. :D

Matt
03-21-2012, 02:57 PM
Looking at other artists on MT is fun and a little depressing~ I don't feel like I've found my "style" yet. >o<
Now when have I thought that before?

Three things I noticed for critique:
1. Are your collarbones really that far apart?
2. I think you went a bit overboard with the shiny hair. Highlights are handled differently in nearly every style, but it generally doesn't look like that unless the light is REEEALLY intense. The light does look intense in the picture, but not quite that much. Seefy gave me this advice awhile back: don't do highlights with white. Use lighter tones of the color you're working with--close to white, but not white.
3. The way you've got the hair parted make it look like her hair's growing out of her forehead. I can't explain this very well, so I'll doodle up something when I get to my tablet. I'll edit this post then.

EDIT:
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/6732/redlinea.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/696/redlinea.jpg/)
I said in the picture I'd post a thumbnail, but there's really no need for that.

ClockHand
03-21-2012, 03:46 PM
Matt I disagree with your redline and critiques. Not because are bad, but rather because are going against the style she is trying to deliver.

Matt
03-21-2012, 04:56 PM
My first three points, I can see where style would enter into it--mostly the hair highlights. The other two, I'm still a bit wary of.

I still think the skew is a problem, regardless of style.

Chuchu, while I'm here, I should probably mention that the manga panel in post #12 looks awesome. I don't regard complements as highly as I used to, but that one just stuck out to me.

Psy
03-21-2012, 09:38 PM
I am not sure if that's a part in her hair or stitches?
With this kind of haircut I don't think a part is necessary considering that you have all the hair (both sides of the part) going forward in the same direction. If one side went forward and the other went horizontally to the side of the head you would need the part defined.
If its stitches then they are covered by way to much hair (for head stitches in the hair they shave where the stitches go. I've seen it on quite a few people) and needs to show more scalp around where the stitches are.

Sylux
03-21-2012, 09:44 PM
My first three points, I can see where style would enter into it--mostly the hair highlights. The other two, I'm still a bit wary of.

I still think the skew is a problem, regardless of style.

Chuchu, while I'm here, I should probably mention that the manga panel in post #12 looks awesome. I don't regard complements as highly as I used to, but that one just stuck out to me.

This is not true, some people have very asymmetrical faces. My father has one, and I am personally starting to develop one. From a frontal view, it's very obvious how asymmetrical I am.

Gedeon
03-26-2012, 06:42 PM
Thats all ok, but i still think that she wasn''t going for the asymmetrical look. So i think its ok to say that t hat was a mistake.

Celestial-Fox
03-28-2012, 07:02 PM
I agree with Ged and Matt. Facial asymmetry is in the nuances of faces: eye shape, nose shape, and lips, generally. In this example, the figure's entire left-side jaw is offset.

Sylux
03-28-2012, 07:10 PM
So is mine QQ I have jaw disorder

Chuchu
04-02-2012, 01:55 PM
Sorry for taking so long to reply, thanks to everyone who posted!

@Matt thanks for taking the time to do a redline, I really appreciate that and it was helpful too. ^^ I didn't think the hair was too shiny, I though it was rather plain; so thanks for pointing that out to me. I have a long way to go with coloring it seems. I've noted the rest of the things you said and I'll keep them in mind. :D
And thanks for the compliment on the manga panel!!!

@Psy Thanks for that bit of advice, I should have taken that into consideration in the first place. ><

And yeah, it's safe to say a skewed up the face. :p

Anyway while I'm on the forum here is something I inked this morning. I was practicing a pose for a manga scene and decided to go ahead and ink it.

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/7884/reachout.jpg

apples13
04-03-2012, 11:00 AM
what is going on in that panel? heil hitler?

Chuchu
04-03-2012, 12:04 PM
lol, does it really look like that?!!! I hope that's not the reason everyone was giving it weird looks! XD
But no, she's just...um...reaching out for someone, ya know...

ScarletHue
04-07-2012, 06:05 AM
I love the movement it has. Great work!

Chuchu
04-08-2012, 10:00 PM
I love the movement it has. Great work!

thanks! ^.^

This is an older drawing I posted back in Feb as a wip, but it's with original colors now. I'm trying to get my darn scanner to scan the background in! >.<

heheh, even if the anatomy is a bit weird I had fun with this...until I had to cover parts with more hair when I remembered who I was drawing it for. XD

tippsyy~

http://img3.etsystatic.com/il_570xN.315706759.jpg

Egoslip
04-08-2012, 10:08 PM
Great imagination and natural understanding of perspective.. need a little work on anatomy, and proportions.. I really dig your lines pretty crisp and clean.. and you've got your own style going on here... just gotta make it look more natural :)

Chuchu
04-11-2012, 06:50 PM
thanks for that bit Egoslip, I'm working on it! :D

Felt like doodling a little fan art, so I drew Shoyo-sensei from Gintama. ^o^


http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg839/scaled.php?server=839&filename=senseiiiiii.jpg&res=landing

I know he looks a bit awkward though XD

Chuchu
04-12-2012, 02:43 AM
Incomplete manga page, I haven't inked all of the background and I decided to redo the blank panel. >.<
the hand and foot are both weird too. ^_^''

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5774/paagefullllsmall.jpg

Egoslip
04-12-2012, 03:37 AM
Hmm.. the main thing I see wrong with this one.. is her right arm, (our left).. looks highly unnatural like that.. it should be foreshortened a bit with her elbow pointed towards the viewer.. and if not that.. then her forearm needs to be foreshortened to where it's going kind of behind her back.. also her hips.. are a bit off.. slightly look disconnected to me.. other than that.. good stuff.. awesome design and lots of movement :3 keep it up!

ScarletHue
04-13-2012, 05:09 AM
The face feels really flat to me on the last panel. And the flatness stands out even more due to the great job you've done making the torso look 3D. I think maybe angling the head a little would fix it.

WhenRabbitsAttack
04-15-2012, 04:34 AM
hi! im gonna comment on ur last picture. i think the dynamics and emotion of the drawing are really good! her hair is being used quite um...artfully to give her decency but it sort of resembles a bunch of feathers as you get closer to the bottom because of all the layers. my advice is to block out specific pices of hair to keep her decent that flow right from the head to the tip of the hairs and add others around them to make it realistic and interesting
hope this helps!

Gaff
04-15-2012, 02:51 PM
Wow, that is a difficult pose to work with...

Egoslip mentioned her right arm already, but I'd also add that her right hand looks to be the wrong way round - if the palm is facing forwards, her thumb should be on the inside and her little finger on the outside. Be careful about the size of her legs too. Her left leg looks bigger than the right, which makes it look like it's nearer the viewer when I think, for the way she's standing, it ought to be the right leg that's closer.

I like the persepective on the sword though and your crosshatching work is lovely.

JJJorgie
04-23-2012, 04:34 PM
Also, her left (our right) big toe appears to be on the outside of her foot, whereas it should be on the inside. Not that big of a deal, but it was really bothering my OCD mind :)

Chuchu
08-02-2012, 09:28 PM
Sorry for the super late responses! But thanks so much for the critiques on that piece guys! If I use that pose in the future, I'll pay more attentions to the details! ^^''

And after four months I've drawn a lot, but I only have a few pieces I thought were worth a critique...

Someone commented that the eyes and way the head was drawn made her look like a creepy Yandere, sorry 'Hime! ^^ Is the tone work weird?
http://i49.tinypic.com/141inh0.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/d4gae.jpg

That's all for now!

JJJorgie
08-02-2012, 11:04 PM
I like both of these a lot! On the first, the tone looks fine to me. These eyes aren't the same height, so the face looks a little off balance. On the second, the breast on the left is larger than the other. It's not super noticable, but I thought I'd let you know. :)

I hope this helped! Keep up the great work!!!

Chuchu
08-03-2012, 02:36 PM
Uneven breasts and eyes, lol got it! Thanks! :D

Chuchu
08-04-2012, 12:08 AM
Did these a while back, my first attempts at coloring with prismacolor pencils. Any tips or pointers?

http://www.mangamagazine.net/illustrations/Wakana/image/5611/illustration-600x-shrink.png

http://www.mangamagazine.net/illustrations/Joan/image/5824/illustration-600x-shrink.jpg

Shadowsfade
08-05-2012, 07:17 AM
Cute design on the second one :) I dont really have much experience colouring with pencils, so i cant really help im afraid! looks pretty good to me though

Chuchu
08-09-2012, 09:55 PM
Well thanks anyway ^^


I went with a suggestion to use Odorless Mineral Spirits for blending, I'm happy with the results. :)

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/300851_266995503415171_745070852_n.jpg

JJJorgie
08-09-2012, 10:11 PM
This picture's really cute!

The mouth should be higher. The neck should be a little thinner and the shoulders broader. The hand should be a little bigger. The eyes should be the same height. Other than that, I like it! The BG's really cool!

TheVermillionFox
08-09-2012, 10:11 PM
That background O_O

The line that shows the arm should be up the high, same for the slope in the shoulder.

I love that, and I subbed you on YT

Shadowsfade
08-12-2012, 06:42 AM
Those eyes are really pretty! I think our left one should be moved slightly further towards the centre for 3/4 view. Also what JJ said about the mouth needing to be much higher up. and yeah, the blending seems to have worked well, especially on the hair!